Zorg did not correct Megiddo's claim so I assumed it's true. Both Megiddo and Zorg are usually reliable users so I didn't think it needed checking.

A 53% drop for a game that opens with a measly 32k is still not a good indication for great legs. That may or may not change in the coming weeks (e.g. NieR Automata), but we can freely give our opinions on weekly drops.

Well made core games that open poorly can have the tendency to keep selling for a long time, and show much stronger legs relative to opening week than a game that opens big. So your "real comparison" is pointless. It's silly to expect similar drop rate patterns from a game that sells 18k on week 1 to one which opens with several hundred thousands (excluding some evergreen and launch titles)

I don’t think that’s correct.

Zorg did not correct Megiddo's claim so I assumed it's true. Both Megiddo and Zorg are usually reliable users so I didn't think it needed checking.

Look man, I know you hate my guts, but I never claimed the 2nd week drop is bad per se after you corrected Megiddo. I said a 53% drop is so far... SO FAR... not "good enough" an indicator, which was intended as a response to xMetroid's claim that it held out well. Does that mean it has no hope? Certainly not, it could for all we know pull a NieR Automata (Which btw is a game I was initially very disappointed with its sales, I expressed that to the point of borderline ridiculing PS gamers' buying habits/tastes, and a few users agreed with me. No one threw a tantrum! No one acted like a sly! Just relax, and don't spam the "Nintendo hate" card if you wish to be taken seriously.) If Wolfenstein's sales don't stabilize or pick up during early weeks, then the game's simply doing bad, you don't need to be a Nintendo hater to see that much. Replicating big sellers drop rate would lead it straight to its.. Doom!

All PS4/X1 game mentioned either opened at least decently or just flat out failed (so far). Wolfenstein 2 proportionately dropping slightly less than those is by no means an achievement.

PS4/X1 do not have many quality core games that open with a 32k. So it's hard to come up with many good examples. Instead, I'm using good ol' common sense, games that open too poorly will have to rely on minimal drops and strong legs to turn things around. Do you disagree with that?

But what are you trying to prove by comparing a failure to another failure? The Crew 2 and Lego The Incredibles bombed deservedly (or not? it doesn't matter.. they're bombas. I'm making no attempts to deny that.) Ys8 is a good game but is low budget and super niche, New Gundam Breaker is the Unholy Trinity: massive bomba, ultra-niche, and awful. Ys8 stands out as the only good game among those, I made no comment on its performance here because the results are expected.

Why are you making a scene out of this? I was more critical/negative to Persona 5 and NieR Automata sales during their early weeks (Around week 2, 3, and 4 in the west), because their being PS4 games gave me the liberty to express myself. It's unfortunate that I can never approach Nintendo gamers in the same manner without starting a problem with someone.. just take a look at your own dramatic reactions over every little thing I do. It seems to upset you dearly that I think third party games don't sell all that well on Nintendo platforms.


Long story short:

Wolfenstein opened terribly, and the 2nd week US data isn't encouraging. Your comparison is fine, but not in the way to say "Would you look at that hold! This is good! There is nothing to worry about!" If you think it takes a Nintendo-Hating-Infidel to see it like this (or come to the conclusion that third parties don't have a very strong selling power on Nintendo platforms), then you are a hopeless Nintendo fanboy.

Look man, I know you hate my guts, but I never claimed the 2nd week drop is bad per se after you corrected Megiddo. I said a 53% drop is so far... SO FAR... not "good enough" an indicator, which was intended as a response to xMetroid's claim that it held out well. Does that mean it has no hope? Certainly not, it could for all we know pull a NieR Automata (Which btw is a game I was initially very disappointed with its sales, I expressed that to the point of borderline ridiculing PS gamers' buying habits/tastes, and a few users agreed with me. No one threw a tantrum! No one acted like a sly! Just relax, and don't spam the "Nintendo hate" card if you wish to be taken seriously.) If Wolfenstein's sales don't stabilize or pick up during early weeks, then the game's simply doing bad, you don't need to be a Nintendo hater to see that much. Replicating big sellers drop rate would lead it straight to its.. Doom!

All PS4/X1 game mentioned either opened at least decently or just flat out failed (so far). Wolfenstein 2 proportionately dropping slightly less than those is by no means an achievement.

PS4/X1 do not have many quality core games that open with a 32k. So it's hard to come up with many good examples. Instead, I'm using good ol' common sense, games that open too poorly will have to rely on minimal drops and strong legs to turn things around. Do you disagree with that?

But what are you trying to prove by comparing a failure to another failure? The Crew 2 and Lego The Incredibles bombed deservedly (or not? it doesn't matter.. they're bombas. I'm making no attempts to deny that.) Ys8 is a good game but is low budget and super niche, New Gundam Breaker is the Unholy Trinity: massive bomba, ultra-niche, and awful. Ys8 stands out as the only good game among those, I made no comment on its performance here because the results are expected.

Why are you making a scene out of this? I was more critical/negative to Persona 5 and NieR Automata sales during their early weeks (Around week 2, 3, and 4 in the west), because their being PS4 games gave me the liberty to express myself. It's unfortunate that I can never approach Nintendo gamers in the same manner without starting a problem with someone.. just take a look at your own dramatic reactions over every little thing I do. It seems to upset you dearly that I think third party games don't sell all that well on Nintendo platforms.


Long story short:

Wolfenstein opened terribly, and the 2nd week US data isn't encouraging. Your comparison is fine, but not in the way to say "Would you look at that hold! This is good! There is nothing to worry about!" If you think it takes a Nintendo-Hating-Infidel to see it like this (or come to the conclusion that third parties don't have a very strong selling power on Nintendo platforms), then you are a hopeless Nintendo fanboy.

You're more guilty than I am coz you're a Nintendo fan (Now let's see if this too gets misinterpreted by someone. It's easy to misunderstand someone you dislike.)

Then we were arguing different things. My intentions were crystal clear, but you decided to make a big deal out of such a trivial detail simply because you don't agree with how I view the market (The shit you're attacking me for are excuses to take your frustration out on me, your retaliation is disproportionate to my little "crime") PS4 and X1 have no equivalent to Wolfenstein Switch situation (32k FW for a great game) it's totally normal to assume that a good word of mouth will help sustaining legs better than a third party game with a big opening, so a 53% drop is not really a great hold in that sense. I'm not obliged to share your extremely low expectations of the game's performance. I will apologize though for possibly lumping your stance with xMetroid's implication.

Yes.. platformers, side scrollers, 2D games, indies, among other genres/styles seem to do quite well on Switch. I expressed that on your very thread:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8831009
"This doesn't negate that multiple genres or sub-genres tend to perform better on Switch. Like indies in general, platformers, kart racers, party and family oriented games, and potentially even core fighting games (due to massively declining on traditional consoles) to name a few."


But you forgot I wrote that.. because I'm the villain and you ought to do your job as part of the Nintendo-Defense-Force. I'll be sure to completely avoid you from her on out and hope you'll ignore me as well. I don't appreciate spending the little time I have here being vilified for stupid crap like this.