Global Software, 30th June 2018

[zorg1000]

Kyuu said:

Mnementh said:

Sorry, it's not silly. I checked Wolfenstein against the same title on other platforms. Do you really think I should compare it to what? Rayman Legends? Minecraft?

No, It's how things are. Games drop in sales sharply after initial week, if no extraordinary circumstances are at play. If we look at the current stuff in this USA chart and look at past weeks new releases:

The Crew 2 on PS4: down to 30.1% of first week sales

The Crew 2 on XB1: down to 27.2%

Crash on Switch: down to 35.1%

Crash on XB1: down to 41.4%

Ys VII on Switch: down to 16.5%

Mario Tennis on Switch: down to 45.5%

New Gundam Breaker on PS4: down to 19.7%

LEGO The Incredibles on PS4: down to 35.1%

LEGO The Incredibles on Switch: down to 42.5%

LEGO The Incredibles on XB1: down to 41.2%

Vampyr on PS4: down to 30.9%

Vampyr on XB1: down to 16.2%

and to add some big releases

God of War on PS4: down to 27.0%

Monster Hunter World on PS4: down to 43.6%

Monster Hunter World on XB1: down to 40.9%

As you can see these drops are pretty common. It even seems that the drop from Wolfenstein on Switch is less strong as drops happen at other titles at other times.

Your notion that the second-week drop depends on the strongness of initial sales is silly, and you should provide data to support your assumption. The data I can dig up shows more or less you made that one up.

So no, the second week drop on Wolfenstein Switch is pretty normal or even slightly less strong and in no way worrying. That is just imagination of the people that hate Nintendo so much they want to connect Switch in every way possible or impossible to failure. And that Megiddo and you have to make up your arguments, isn't very much helping your case. So please stop making stuff up and keep to the facts, pretty please with sugar on top.

And yes, as long as you don't check claims of other users, they may seem reliable.

Look man, I know you hate my guts, but I never claimed the 2nd week drop is bad per se after you corrected Megiddo. I said a 53% drop is so far... SO FAR... not "good enough" an indicator, which was intended as a response to xMetroid's claim that it held out well. Does that mean it has no hope? Certainly not, it could for all we know pull a NieR Automata (Which btw is a game I was initially very disappointed with its sales, I expressed that to the point of borderline ridiculing PS gamers' buying habits/tastes, and a few users agreed with me. No one threw a tantrum! No one acted like a sly! Just relax, and don't spam the "Nintendo hate" card if you wish to be taken seriously.) If Wolfenstein's sales don't stabilize or pick up during early weeks, then the game's simply doing bad, you don't need to be a Nintendo hater to see that much. Replicating big sellers drop rate would lead it straight to its.. Doom!

All PS4/X1 game mentioned either opened at least decently or just flat out failed (so far). Wolfenstein 2 proportionately dropping slightly less than those is by no means an achievement.

PS4/X1 do not have many quality core games that open with a 32k. So it's hard to come up with many good examples. Instead, I'm using good ol' common sense, games that open too poorly will have to rely on minimal drops and strong legs to turn things around. Do you disagree with that?

But what are you trying to prove by comparing a failure to another failure? The Crew 2 and Lego The Incredibles bombed deservedly (or not? it doesn't matter.. they're bombas. I'm making no attempts to deny that.) Ys8 is a good game but is low budget and super niche, New Gundam Breaker is the Unholy Trinity: massive bomba, ultra-niche, and awful. Ys8 stands out as the only good game among those, I made no comment on its performance here because the results are expected.

Why are you making a scene out of this? I was more critical/negative to Persona 5 and NieR Automata sales during their early weeks (Around week 2, 3, and 4 in the west), because their being PS4 games gave me the liberty to express myself. It's unfortunate that I can never approach Nintendo gamers in the same manner without starting a problem with someone.. just take a look at your own dramatic reactions over every little thing I do. It seems to upset you dearly that I think third party games don't sell all that well on Nintendo platforms.


Long story short:

Wolfenstein opened terribly, and the 2nd week US data isn't encouraging. Your comparison is fine, but not in the way to say "Would you look at that hold! This is good! There is nothing to worry about!" If you think it takes a Nintendo-Hating-Infidel to see it like this (or come to the conclusion that third parties don't have a very strong selling power on Nintendo platforms), then you are a hopeless Nintendo fanboy.

zorg1000 said:

Oh so this is my fault now

Im glad you think im reliable though lol

You're more guilty than I am coz you're a Nintendo fan (Now let's see if this too gets misinterpreted by someone. It's easy to misunderstand someone you dislike.)

So now youre saying Nintendo fans are better at math?