Wasn't that like the first thing that was suggested when the first issues arose? And then again. And Again. And again....

Thanks for the info, and for the work you do here, CGI.  

Now, regarding those admins.....  if one leaves, is it not possible to replace them?  If not, why not?  Is it that nobody wants to do it, or that ioi won't allow anyone else, or what?  Do those guys have specific areas of expertise, or interest (or any other factor) that make them not-interchangeable? 

I hope I'm not prying too much.  I just realized while reading this thread that I've been active here for 2 years (and I lurked for about 2 years before that), and I have no idea who really makes this clock tick.  

Talon and Trucks have extensive web development skills and they were volunteering out of their free time. So basically, you'd have to find someone that a) ioi will trust enough to give the backdoor key for the website b) has experience in web development and c) can do it for free, all the while sustaining abuse from the community.

Therein lies the problem with replacing the admins

That's about what I was imagining.  So, basically, we should consider ourselves lucky to even have a site that functions at all.  

The site turns a profit as it has been pointed out before if the profit wasn't here then it would likely have been closed during the lapse in care that it got from the sites owner in the past couple of years as advertising on VGChartz is pretty heavy with 2-3 active adverts on most pages of the site.

That said this last 6 months, Since Jan or so the Alexa rank of the site has taken a fairly large dip from in the top 20k rank down to now below 32k, (8200 drop in the past 3 months) site views are likely to increase again around E3 time but I'm not sure if this dip is annual as the graph just shows a single year or if visits here are dropping because of other things.

But yeah the sites functionality will go hand in hand with its profitability. If it's making money it will be maintained by the sites owner if something drastic happens which would stop that flow.

Actually the only problem is a). I am fairly certain there are users with experience on this very forum that would love to help out. Sadly, problem a) is apparently unfixable.

Well thanks for explaining Talon.

The issue is a common one sadly. A lot of people aren't technical enough so they throw out abuse. This is no different than on my own site.

They say things like this is fucked it isn't working.

I say that is an open ended statement

What isn't working, what system are you using, send me a print screen, describe the error.

In the end I have learned to accept that 90% of the world are dumbasses who need to be talked to like children to get something half decent out of them to rectify the problem.

Saying all that people on a gaming site should be a bit more intelligent that the common person using an iphone. Those people need to work on their delivery lol.

I don't think anyone is denying the work various people put into the site, but in the same breath I also don't think that certain things should go without being addressed when it comes to helping a place to grow or be maintained, as stated in a post which I'm not going to say started off this whole thing but started off ^ this appearing here.

While there is as much respect as possible shown to all members on here if it at a point becomes a case of a one way street where a lack of respect one way would come with threat of moderation but on the other hand referring to portions of the community as "morons or lower class of people" just can't be terms that someone throws out without a thought that it's actually a personal insult referring to people as a "lower class" because they raise issues with site functionality. (again the old "it wasn't directed at someone" can be said here but it's clear the reason for this upset, or at least this escalation in it.) But yeah been here many years for literally thousands of posts over the last 6 years https://i.imgur.com/6KPjtJo.png since this kicked off I've gotten a number of pms which I'm quite grateful for but yeah I'm not sure my attitude in general has ever been referred to as bad or volatile towards others as I think that isn't the sort of attitude in general which creates an open and productive site/forum/community and I personally wouldn't take it online to others if I felt that way.

As someone who isn't an old friend of the site owner unlike the person I upset, all I can say is welcome back to VGC ioi hope all is well with you and yours.

Huge thanks to you, Talon, for everything you've done for the site, and obviously thanks to everyone else who keeps the site running. A big reason why I returned to VGChartz on a more regular basis was the re-implementation of many of these features, and I'm very grateful for the time you've put in.

Woah, I was not expecting to see you here!! If I am to be completely honest, I thought we'd never see from you again, and it really made me question/worry about the site's future with you not being here and thus it's nice to see you here right now. Is this a one-off appearance, or will we be seeing from you again in the future? In any case, I hope that you can either convince Talon to come back, or that you can find more coders who are able to help maintain and improve the site.