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BF must have been huge for them at $199. If they maintain $199 with the 2018 software line up then it’s a warp.

For hardware that has only been out for a bit more than a year, that's a rather decent attach rate. Also, it might be that non-PSVR exclusive games are only counted if they have been used with PSVR (which I'm fairly certain Sony will have stats for).

I'm not going to do a serious analysis of the figures given we don't have numbers updated to the end of the year yet and I don't have time, but roughly speaking- the PS2 had shipped 32.8m by the end of it's 4th year in NA, we will probably have the PS4 close to maybe 24.5-25m sell through by that timeframe, so it's around a 7-7.5m difference, sell through to shipped. Either way it looks like its significantly behind.

Anyone else with more time on their hands feel free to interject if I've got this completely wrong.

XBox has been selling HALF of what PS4 was selling in the US for whole 2017. It has been 3:1  worldwide.

you doing it wrong the second you start comparing across generations like that. so many different factors can slant your results.

The Xbox brand as a whole is significantly much better competition in NA to the PS4 than it was to the PS2.

you should also compare it to how it's faring against it's last console. Which in this case is the PS3. 

The 360 dominated NA last gen. for MS to be losing NA to the PS4 this gen is all the win Sony needs in NA. Well that and for it to do better than whatever the PS3 did over there. 

Love the PS4. I'm not surprised. Congrats on making a great console Sony.

I don't want to go in to the defininition of success argument. In that case all anything needs it for a flop to happen and anything afterwards is a breakaway success.

I was pointing out how they've lost sales/marketshare since their earlier consoles in certain regions while growing in other markets (and yes, obviously there are many factors involved). NA is no longer the powerhouse it was for PS (and Japan for that matter). Cumulative sales of the PS2 saw only 2m in the difference between NA and EU. There will be likely be a 10m sales gap this gen in those regions. It will be interesting when the PS4 is finished selling to see how it compares to the PS2 region to region, to see how the market has shifted since then.

At this point in time, the PlayStation 2 had shipped around 71 million consoles and shipped around 570 million games.

The PS4 has sold through (note the difference) over 70 million consoles and over 617 million games.

That's just a rough comparison above.

— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) December 7, 2017

"We can’t ignore the Nintendo Switch, which has also captured consumers attention". Those darn bandits are trying to Switch the tracks again and derail this freight train. More coal, more games!