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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - FIFA 18 on Switch accounted for 1% of all UK physical copies sold

outlawauron said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

I think the more important question is:

 

Why would a game that only sold 8,000 copies be sold out anywhere? The only logical answer is: self-sabotage. Trying to figure out why a business does things is futile. Trying to figure out how these numbers fit into context is a far easier endeavor.

 

No matter how much I want to believe it is something else, if I say I want to sell 8 boxes of peanuts but only have 4 boxes, then of course I can say I never met my sales expectations since I could not possibly reach 8 boxes sold.

So you're saying that they're artificially creating demand by purposefully limiting supply?

With such a low number, I would have to doubt that. I also learned that EA's exclusivity deal with Fifa states they have to make at least one Fifa title for every console. So if another Vita comes out, they have to make a Fifa for that, too. This gives a lot more explanation to why they may have spent the money only to sabotage their title. They really had no choice in making the game. It may also explain why they announced no other titles for Switch; because they are not contractually obligated to do as much.



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chakkra said:
GoOnKid said:

Now if you could provide a source for these numbers this thread will be finished. With a Fatality!

Errr...  Actually, those are VGC numbers.

Okay!



DonFerrari said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

By that logic, why would you spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to ship such a low number? They make money from retailer buys and not consumer buys anyway. So, if they oversell to retailers, it becomes less their issue than the retailers problem. Would that not sound like self sabotage to you? Invest all that money and then not even attempt to sell them... yes, that sounds like self sabotage to me.

By that logic they could he shipping 200k WW and be enough to break even or start a relationship with Switch and if it's sold out make a second batch of games. Makes much more sense than burn money just to say they tried.

Well we now have a logical answer. It is stipulated in EA's contract with Fifa that a game must be made for every major platform. So, that would explain why they may want to sabotage their own title. They really never wanted to work with Nintendo or on Nintendo's hardware but in the case of Fifa, they have no choice. To justify not ever working with Nintendo again, they make a bad product, under ship it, do not promote it, and use the low sales as an excuse to never work on Nintendo's hardware again. This also explains why they would not announce or even talk about making any other titles for Switch, because outside of an outlier situation, they never planned to work on Switch.



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Mnementh said:
Locknuts said:
1% of Fifa sales in the UK is still over 50 million copies so that's not bad.

FIFA sells 5 billion copies in UK alone?

I don't know. I'm just judging by the level of enthusiasm Brits have for soccer. I'm guessing they buy at least 100 copies per citizen.



GhaudePhaede010 said:
DonFerrari said:

By that logic they could he shipping 200k WW and be enough to break even or start a relationship with Switch and if it's sold out make a second batch of games. Makes much more sense than burn money just to say they tried.

Well we now have a logical answer. It is stipulated in EA's contract with Fifa that a game must be made for every major platform. So, that would explain why they may want to sabotage their own title. They really never wanted to work with Nintendo or on Nintendo's hardware but in the case of Fifa, they have no choice. To justify not ever working with Nintendo again, they make a bad product, under ship it, do not promote it, and use the low sales as an excuse to never work on Nintendo's hardware again. This also explains why they would not announce or even talk about making any other titles for Switch, because outside of an outlier situation, they never planned to work on Switch.

Those are some quite theories of conspiracy. :D

For devs is quite simple, if they think they can make profit buy porting some game to some platform, they will port game. People definitely overreacting about those 1% in UK, I mean Fifa 18 on Switch in Japan sold around 22% of all Fifa sales in Japan. :)



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Miyamotoo said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:

Well we now have a logical answer. It is stipulated in EA's contract with Fifa that a game must be made for every major platform. So, that would explain why they may want to sabotage their own title. They really never wanted to work with Nintendo or on Nintendo's hardware but in the case of Fifa, they have no choice. To justify not ever working with Nintendo again, they make a bad product, under ship it, do not promote it, and use the low sales as an excuse to never work on Nintendo's hardware again. This also explains why they would not announce or even talk about making any other titles for Switch, because outside of an outlier situation, they never planned to work on Switch.

Those are some quite theories of conspiracy. :D

For devs is quite simple, if they think they can make profit buy porting some game to some platform, they will port game. People definitely overreacting about those 1% in UK, I mean Fifa 18 on Switch in Japan sold around 22% of all Fifa sales in Japan. :)

I have never used 1% in any conversation. I said it is rather strange that the game sold out on amazon.uk and GAME but did not push 10,000 units. There is nothing you can say to me that will convince me that is not sabotage. Nothing. And now I have a logical explanation as to why and I listed it above. I have no idea why 1% was brought up by you in the context of a conversation I do not think involved you from the start.

As far as devs thinking they can make a profit, all of that goes out the window when the developer is contractually obligated to make a game for new hardware. No matter what the developer thiinks, they have a contract to honor. Now, I am sounding redundant.



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GhaudePhaede010 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Those are some quite theories of conspiracy. :D

For devs is quite simple, if they think they can make profit buy porting some game to some platform, they will port game. People definitely overreacting about those 1% in UK, I mean Fifa 18 on Switch in Japan sold around 22% of all Fifa sales in Japan. :)

I have never used 1% in any conversation. I said it is rather strange that the game sold out on amazon.uk and GAME but did not push 10,000 units. There is nothing you can say to me that will convince me that is not sabotage. Nothing. And now I have a logical explanation as to why and I listed it above. I have no idea why 1% was brought up by you in the context of a conversation I do not think involved you from the start.

As far as devs thinking they can make a profit, all of that goes out the window when the developer is contractually obligated to make a game for new hardware. No matter what the developer thiinks, they have a contract to honor. Now, I am sounding redundant.

I didn't said you used 1% but people in this thread definitely overreacting because those 1% in UK. We dont know why Switch version of Fifa 18 is undershiped in some way, but hardly that EA is sabotaging their product, it doesnt make any sense, to make good product and effort and than sabotage that. What are you saying are definatly theories of conspiracy.

But they agreed for that contract on first place, if they wanted they could not sign it at all on first place.



Yeahhhhhh... that is the first and now last Fifa that got an honest effort from EA on Nintendo. You can't say that they didn't try!



Xen said:
Yeahhhhhh... that is the first and now last Fifa that got an honest effort from EA on Nintendo. You can't say that they didn't try!

Given it was missing not only the Journey but also a random selection of features for no apparent reason, got no promotion, apparently was shipped in low numbers, and they posted neither trailers nor in game screenshots anywhere in the build up to launch to even *try* to build interest I can most definitely say they didn't try.  Or at least didn't try very hard.  

Seriously, the fact people are sweeping all this under the rug to give EA - freaking Electronic Arts - the benefit of the doubt is dumbfounding.  



Locknuts said:
Mnementh said:

FIFA sells 5 billion copies in UK alone?

I don't know. I'm just judging by the level of enthusiasm Brits have for soccer. I'm guessing they buy at least 100 copies per citizen.

Yeah, well, sounds reasonabe. By the way, we germans are even bigger soccer/football enthusiasts, so here everyone buy at least 150 copies. ;-P



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