Hmm, selling the 3DS at a loss for quite some time and selling the Wii U at a loss for a couple of years, small installed base on the home console front with a fairly low attach rate overall and no presence in mobile sector.

Selling fewer units than the combined 3DS+Wii U paired with a growing presence in mobile and decent profit margins on hardware combined with eventual heightened software output due to streamlining and combining libraries that causes higher attach rates and thus better profit margins.

Number two seems better to me, Nintendo's economical prospects are a lot better right now than they were ever during the rather loathsome 8th gen for them.

Bottom line; Switch doesn't need 80 million plus to be a success, depending on certain factors, I'd argue that even half that could be counted as a success, doubly so considering the market it competes in and its form factor that puts it dangerously close to the most dominant force the consumer electronics market has ever seen.

I bought a WiiU and four 3DS over time. I highly doubt I'll buy five Switches or even near that. I think I'm not alone. So smaller sales doesn't mean smaller userbase. I think above 50 million it covers about the userbase of 3DS and WiiU.

Doom

Doom is always on the rise.

That and optics :>

Listen, Op, I'm not a fan of Nintendo, not at all, I don't much like the switch, either.

Unlike some here I'm not going to point you to weekly sales and act as if that means anything because it doesn't, other than "low stock high demand", as I pointed out in another thread, the first 8 weeks sales data is always a trainwreck, it's in months 3 and 4 that the platform establishes it's baseline, never before., but even saying that, I still think if they sell even 8m in the first year then it'll be doing perfectly fine.

He's being sarcastic.

Success in the market is determined by profitability. For example, even though the Wii sold 55 million fewer units than the DS, because it generated more profit, it was more successful.

Either way, depending on its lifespan and how generations work out, Switch is 100M+ console under the current model.

Point taken, I assume he's being sarcastic anyway as the's no way to class the PS4 as anything other than a success.