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ArchangelMadzz said:
You can only compare it to handheld sales once the switch is sold without the dock.

The missing dock will not bring down the price much. Attaching the controllers permanently to the console might be a cheaper mobile only option. We'll see.



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DroidKnight said:

Anything less than 80 million in hardware sales in 5 years will show a diminishing interest in the "Nintendo Brand" and unfortunately create another hurdle that will need to be cleared.  They are off to an excellent start, 4 years and 10 months to go.  

 

You are right. If it doesn't at least do 80 million, it will be a failure just like PS4 and Xbox One. Both of them have failed to beat the previous generation sales and seem  highly unlikely to do so.

PS2: 155+ million
PS3+PSP: 166+ million
PS4+Vita: 75.5 million

360: 84+ million
One: 29.2 million

PS4 and/or Vita need another 85 million (give or take) to avoid failure. Xbox One needs at least another 55 million. Anything less than that in hardware sales will show a diminishing interest in both Sony and Microsoft brands accordingly.


Consoles are clearly dying.



Hmm, selling the 3DS at a loss for quite some time and selling the Wii U at a loss for a couple of years, small installed base on the home console front with a fairly low attach rate overall and no presence in mobile sector.

Selling fewer units than the combined 3DS+Wii U paired with a growing presence in mobile and decent profit margins on hardware combined with eventual heightened software output due to streamlining and combining libraries that causes higher attach rates and thus better profit margins.

Number two seems better to me, Nintendo's economical prospects are a lot better right now than they were ever during the rather loathsome 8th gen for them.

Bottom line; Switch doesn't need 80 million plus to be a success, depending on certain factors, I'd argue that even half that could be counted as a success, doubly so considering the market it competes in and its form factor that puts it dangerously close to the most dominant force the consumer electronics market has ever seen.



I bought a WiiU and four 3DS over time. I highly doubt I'll buy five Switches or even near that. I think I'm not alone. So smaller sales doesn't mean smaller userbase. I think above 50 million it covers about the userbase of 3DS and WiiU.



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Helloplite said:

You are right. If it doesn't at least do 80 million, it will be a failure just like PS4 and Xbox One. Both of them have failed to beat the previous generation sales and seem  highly unlikely to do so.

PS2: 155+ million
PS3+PSP: 166+ million
PS4+Vita: 75.5 million

360: 84+ million
One: 29.2 million

PS4 and/or Vita need another 85 million (give or take) to avoid failure
. Xbox One needs at least another 55 million.

Consoles are clearly dying.

Not really. Aside from the fact that the whole "must beat predecessor" concept is flawed in the first place... the PS4 only needs to beat the PS3. The Vita is the PSP successor, and is a definite failure. But the Vita being a failure doesn't transfer over to the PS4.



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DroidKnight said:
the_dengle said:
But why

Nintendo needs to show a positive move in the market. Any decrease in numbers will not be viewed upon as a good thing.

 

Jeez, isn't the great momentum of the Switch enough proof that Nintendo are making positive moves within the market. Or is this thread created to rile Nintendo fans.

ktay95 said:

Fuck me, guess the industry really is dead hey.

Sony are down

Microsoft are down 

Nintendo are down

Is anyone on the up??

Doom

Doom is always on the rise.



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zippy said:
DroidKnight said:

Nintendo needs to show a positive move in the market. Any decrease in numbers will not be viewed upon as a good thing.

 

Jeez, isn't the great momentum of the Switch enough proof that Nintendo are making positive moves within the market. Or is this thread created to rile Nintendo fans.

That and optics :>



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Listen, Op, I'm not a fan of Nintendo, not at all, I don't much like the switch, either.

Unlike some here I'm not going to point you to weekly sales and act as if that means anything because it doesn't, other than "low stock high demand", as I pointed out in another thread, the first 8 weeks sales data is always a trainwreck, it's in months 3 and 4 that the platform establishes it's baseline, never before., but even saying that, I still think if they sell even 8m in the first year then it'll be doing perfectly fine.



Ganoncrotch said:
zippy said:

 

Jeez, isn't the great momentum of the Switch enough proof that Nintendo are making positive moves within the market. Or is this thread created to rile Nintendo fans.

That and optics :>

 

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