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Ka-pi96 said:

Not really. Aside from the fact that the whole "must beat predecessor" concept is flawed in the first place... the PS4 only needs to beat the PS3. The Vita is the PSP successor, and is a definite failure. But the Vita being a failure doesn't transfer over to the PS4.

He's being sarcastic.



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Wyrdness said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Not really. Aside from the fact that the whole "must beat predecessor" concept is flawed in the first place... the PS4 only needs to beat the PS3. The Vita is the PSP successor, and is a definite failure. But the Vita being a failure doesn't transfer over to the PS4.

He's being sarcastic.

Well I'd like to think the OP is too... but it's hard to tell these days



Success in the market is determined by profitability. For example, even though the Wii sold 55 million fewer units than the DS, because it generated more profit, it was more successful.

Either way, depending on its lifespan and how generations work out, Switch is 100M+ console under the current model.



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Ka-pi96 said:
Wyrdness said:

He's being sarcastic.

Well I'd like to think the OP is too... but it's hard to tell these days

Point taken, I assume he's being sarcastic anyway as the's no way to class the PS4 as anything other than a success.



3DS and WiiU were both sold at a loss for a good part of their life cycle. Switch is being sold at a profit since launch.

Financially speaking, I have no doubt that the Switch will be a better success. Sales-wise though, I'm not sure.



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DroidKnight said:
Maxkill said:
I dont think that 70 millions of consoles sold will be a failure,but the Nintendo case is very special,they had two markets:Home console and handheld,now they merged into Switch,i dont think they gonna sell like the wii+Nintendo DS,neither Wii U + nintendo 3ds.

Again I think optics is important, that would appear as a 10 million Nintendo user base decline.

Well first, as others have said Nintendo does not need to hit that mark to be growing and profiting financially.

Otherwise, you seem to be forgetting that Nintendo is now dabbling in mobile phones; I just read a rumor this morning, for instance, that there may be a Zelda title on the way.

Oh, and a few years from now they'll be in many theme parks as well... and have already featured quite prominently in the next Olympics. If brand awareness and "optics" are your biggest concern, it's probably unwarranted; if anything, Nintendo looks like it will be growing its brand significantly in the coming years.



Nintendo just need to get it down in price early on in its lifetime, to keep momentum of sales going.
It cant sell the Switch for 100$ more than the PS4 or XB1 (they can, but shouldnt).

I expect Nintendo by holidays to have a bundled 1st party game (mario oddessey) and a 50$ price drop.
Then they just have to keep pushing out great games.



Who the fuck are you to judge consoles success?



JRPGfan said:
Nintendo just need to get it down in price early on in its lifetime, to keep momentum of sales going.
It cant sell the Switch for 100$ more than the PS4 or XB1 (they can, but shouldnt).

I expect Nintendo by holidays to have a bundled 1st party game (mario oddessey) and a 50$ price drop.
Then they just have to keep pushing out great games.

Not gonna happen, there is zero reason to have price cut in 1st year when console is selling, and Switch is selling great and actual Nintendo can't keep up with demand, its selling much better than Nintendo initaly planed with same price point, and with more must have games and great marketing and word of mouth Switch is becoming even more desired console buy time passes. Best you can hope for holiday season is MK8D bundle for $300 (hardly they will bundle huge big new game like Mario Odyssey for holiday season). Price cut probably for holiday season 2018.

Also Nintendo talked at Investitor meeting how costs of production for ordered Switch consoles for this year cant go down, so profitability will be same for whole FY. In other words they will make same amount of profit on evre Switch sold this year, and price cut is only possible for next year when costs of Switch manufacturing go down.



JRPGfan said:
Nintendo just need to get it down in price early on in its lifetime, to keep momentum of sales going.
It cant sell the Switch for 100$ more than the PS4 or XB1 (they can, but shouldnt).

I expect Nintendo by holidays to have a bundled 1st party game (mario oddessey) and a 50$ price drop.
Then they just have to keep pushing out great games.

Thats not happening. MK8 would be the bundle compared to mario oddesy as it would be the new game at that time. (Splat2 i can see as well)

 

As for price drop, thats 100% not happening this year. Its already May and the switch in alot of places WW is still sold out and in high demand (despite ps4/x1 lower in price). Why would they cut the price when its still being completely sold out? Even if demand comes to an end by next month or 2 itll still be in a position that its selling well. 

 

I think the only consoles to ever be this bad supply restaint were ps4/wii. That says something