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I hope X is ported also to Switch. Would buy again on day 1.

And the only way to be screwed is if they keep wasting resources on that failure.



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They messed up but this clearly is the way to go.
There's no saving the Wii U now so they have to go full steam ahead with the Switch.

We're still getting Breath of the Wild on Wii U if we don't want to buy a Switch for it and launching Switch with Zelda will really jumpstart sales from the beginning, leading to more people owning it, which leads to more interest in developers since there will actually be a reasonable user base.

Bottom line is they have to dump whatever they can onto the Switch and if that means making BOTW a dual release and remastering/remaking Smash and Kart I'm all on board with it,



BuckStud said:
0D0 said:

It's not the consumers fault in my opinion. Consumers should not be forced to study what Nintendo did in the past before buying their new console they're selling. Nintendo did an awful job with Wii U. It's Nintendo's fault. Even considering Nintendo's past, Wii U is one of their worst consoles ever, maybe the worst. It lacks some of Nintendo's own franchises and it was dead one year before the release of the NS. Wii U is horrible, no one could predict that some years ago.

This is absolutely stupid.  There are zero guarantees when you buy a new system of what the future holds.  Anyone who buys a system today because they think game X will come out for it in a year, needs therapy.  I personally have had a lot of fun with the games that I've bought for the Wii U and I've bought a lot of them.

Like I said, it is the sort of mistake you make with the first time you buy a console around launch time, that mistake of thinking that all of the preview footage shown before launch should be expected during the launch window of the machine. I mean the 3ds bombed so much with its launch they offered the ambassador program to repay the early adopters.

But ya long story short, don't buy a console at launch if you want all the aaa games demoed and don't buy a console at all of you'll be annoyed if a game from the platform is ever ported or remastered to another machine because that can always happen because software Developers want their games played by as many people as possible and on all the platforms that can potentially play it. 



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Ganoncrotch said:
BuckStud said:
This is absolutely stupid.  There are zero guarantees when you buy a new system of what the future holds.  Anyone who buys a system today because they think game X will come out for it in a year, needs therapy.  I personally have had a lot of fun with the games that I've bought for the Wii U and I've bought a lot of them.

Like I said, it is the sort of mistake you make with the first time you buy a console around launch time, that mistake of thinking that all of the preview footage shown before launch should be expected during the launch window of the machine. I mean the 3ds bombed so much with its launch they offered the ambassador program to repay the early adopters.

But ya long story short, don't buy a console at launch if you want all the aaa games demoed and don't buy a console at all of you'll be annoyed if a game from the platform is ever ported or remastered to another machine because that can always happen because software Developers want their games played by as many people as possible and on all the platforms that can potentially play it. 

I honestly thought Nintendo would do what Sony did with the PS3 since they didn't kill the system in 2013, announced more games for it and promised support so that customers would be satisfied.

I won't listen to them ever again.

Also, the remasters on Switch are not comparable with the remasters on PS4 and XBox One. With a few notable exceptions, most remasters on those systems are from games released 5-10 years ago. Backwards compatibility is also not comprable, since new owners are not getting better graphics or extra content (that is not available for early adopters or is a ripoff like most DLC). Also, in the case of backwards compatibility, you have to either already own the game, or buy it used, since most games for old systems are out of print.



That's a lot of assumptions in paragraph of text, man.



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0D0 said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Was the Wii-U really your first console ever? It must have certainly been your first Nintendo machine because the support for SNES - N64 - GC and Wii all dropped like a rock when their successor consoles were on the way,

It's not the consumers fault in my opinion. Consumers should not be forced to study what Nintendo did in the past before buying their new console they're selling. Nintendo did an awful job with Wii U. It's Nintendo's fault. Even considering Nintendo's past, Wii U is one of their worst consoles ever, maybe the worst. It lacks some of Nintendo's own franchises and it was dead one year before the release of the NS. Wii U is horrible, no one could predict that some years ago.

[Raises hand] I predicted it!  I predicted it would be crap!

Seriously, OK, consumers don't "research" the product they are buying... So whatever assumptions they make out of ignorance is OK?
How does that work though, because different ignorant consumers can make different unfounded assumptions which are mutually incompatable.
And I find this line of thinking strange, because it only makes sense for consumers who had never owned a Nintendo console previously.
Of course, Nintendo fucked up with Wii U.  Plenty of people called it from the beginning, but fact is: companies fuck up sometimes.  Deal with it.



Magnus said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Like I said, it is the sort of mistake you make with the first time you buy a console around launch time, that mistake of thinking that all of the preview footage shown before launch should be expected during the launch window of the machine. I mean the 3ds bombed so much with its launch they offered the ambassador program to repay the early adopters.

But ya long story short, don't buy a console at launch if you want all the aaa games demoed and don't buy a console at all of you'll be annoyed if a game from the platform is ever ported or remastered to another machine because that can always happen because software Developers want their games played by as many people as possible and on all the platforms that can potentially play it. 

I honestly thought Nintendo would do what Sony did with the PS3 since they didn't kill the system in 2013, announced more games for it and promised support so that customers would be satisfied.

I won't listen to them ever again.

Also, the remasters on Switch are not comparable with the remasters on PS4 and XBox One. With a few notable exceptions, most remasters on those systems are from games released 5-10 years ago. Backwards compatibility is also not comprable, since new owners are not getting better graphics or extra content (that is not available for early adopters or is a ripoff like most DLC). Also, in the case of backwards compatibility, you have to either already own the game, or buy it used, since most games for old systems are out of print.

Would you mind showing a picture of your Wii-U and games collection? Just wouldn't mind seeing which of the First party games you have and will be upset should they go to the switch.



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mutantsushi said:
0D0 said:

It's not the consumers fault in my opinion. Consumers should not be forced to study what Nintendo did in the past before buying their new console they're selling. Nintendo did an awful job with Wii U. It's Nintendo's fault. Even considering Nintendo's past, Wii U is one of their worst consoles ever, maybe the worst. It lacks some of Nintendo's own franchises and it was dead one year before the release of the NS. Wii U is horrible, no one could predict that some years ago.

[Raises hand] I predicted it!  I predicted it would be crap!

Seriously, OK, consumers don't "research" the product they are buying... So whatever assumptions they make out of ignorance is OK?
How does that work though, because different ignorant consumers can make different unfounded assumptions which are mutually incompatable.
And I find this line of thinking strange, because it only makes sense for consumers who had never owned a Nintendo console previously.
Of course, Nintendo fucked up with Wii U.  Plenty of people called it from the beginning, but fact is: companies fuck up sometimes.  Deal with it.

You're assuming that I'm being extreme and you're going to another extreme. Consumer can be ignorant, but when a company doesn't support a console it's still a fact that they're not supporting it. Wii U support is worse than any other console.

People have to deal with it, but it's still a fact that Nintendo fucked it and fucked them.



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