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Nautilus said:
DonFerrari said:

So if you received a book to review and you think it's horrible after 30-50 pages would you say that a honest opinion for a review or critic need to read the other 1950 pages?

Of course.The book can be horible the first 50 pages, but after that it could developed in a decent or even good book.You wont know until you read at the end.And as a person that wants to know about the book, if you read the preview of that guy that only read the first 50 pages you will think:Ok, the intro is bad, but what about the rest?Couldnt there be a reedeming factor?

I dont think reviewers need to 100% the story per se, but doing the bare minimum is not only unprofessional, but completely wrong.People who do this shouldnt even be called a professional, let alone a  reviewer.


if a book after readingf for 2h haven't enticed you the least would you obligue yourself to read another 100?

You may say it's unfair, unprofessional but it's his true opinion that the book don't deserve to be read



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Nautilus said:
DonFerrari said:

So they think the story is simple, and your problem with that is that they didn't know the whole Lore because they didn't play the whole side quest?

You may say what you want and disagree with them. But it seems like their opinion is that the story and leveling isn't well designed.

No, Im saying that by what they imply, that the carachters dont have depth and that the story in general seems simple,but that would be somewhat fixed if they did most of the affinity missions.But I agree thats a reasonable point to critic.

Its just that reading many of the "bad" reviews, most of them seem to not care to give the necessary effort to truly understand the game or understand its mechanics, or the reviewers were ones that simply dont like JRPGs to begin with.Wished they took more time with the games to try and do all they could before releasing the review, but alas.


I agree that professionals should do their job, but 20h should be acceptable sample and seems like the average they done. And they may have approached the game the wrong way and didn't give enough effort.

But it isn't the job of the critic or customer to effort themselves to like or unveil the game and like it, that is the job of the game designer... so if people aren't enjoying the game, that falt is on the devs.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Nautilus said:

Of course.The book can be horible the first 50 pages, but after that it could developed in a decent or even good book.You wont know until you read at the end.And as a person that wants to know about the book, if you read the preview of that guy that only read the first 50 pages you will think:Ok, the intro is bad, but what about the rest?Couldnt there be a reedeming factor?

I dont think reviewers need to 100% the story per se, but doing the bare minimum is not only unprofessional, but completely wrong.People who do this shouldnt even be called a professional, let alone a  reviewer.


if a book after readingf for 2h haven't enticed you the least would you obligue yourself to read another 100?

You may say it's unfair, unprofessional but it's his true opinion that the book don't deserve to be read

Of course he is obliged!Its his job to read the whole book to make a fair and good review.he is being paid for it, to do that single job.What are you saying is like if a teacher had a student with difficulty learning something, the teacher should just give up on him?He may in the end fail(the student), but its teachers job to try its best to make the student understand.I was a bit extreme in my example, but I think you got the idea.He can say all he want about the book being bad, but he needs to experience it all to truly say its bad.If you cant handle it, well then, you are in the wrong job(the reviewers in case of course)



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

I don't play sub 90 meta games.

Such a shame, as I wanted to get this one. Oh well.



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Nautilus said:
DonFerrari said:


if a book after readingf for 2h haven't enticed you the least would you obligue yourself to read another 100?

You may say it's unfair, unprofessional but it's his true opinion that the book don't deserve to be read

Of course he is obliged!Its his job to read the whole book to make a fair and good review.he is being paid for it, to do that single job.What are you saying is like if a teacher had a student with difficulty learning something, the teacher should just give up on him?He may in the end fail(the student), but its teachers job to try its best to make the student understand.I was a bit extreme in my example, but I think you got the idea.He can say all he want about the book being bad, but he needs to experience it all to truly say its bad.If you cant handle it, well then, you are in the wrong job(the reviewers in case of course)

He is paid to review the book, not to read all.

Do restaurant critics eat the whole menu to evaluate or ask for their "full course" annd the restaurante chef decides what to serve? If he serves his worst that is his fault alone.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
Nautilus said:

Of course he is obliged!Its his job to read the whole book to make a fair and good review.he is being paid for it, to do that single job.What are you saying is like if a teacher had a student with difficulty learning something, the teacher should just give up on him?He may in the end fail(the student), but its teachers job to try its best to make the student understand.I was a bit extreme in my example, but I think you got the idea.He can say all he want about the book being bad, but he needs to experience it all to truly say its bad.If you cant handle it, well then, you are in the wrong job(the reviewers in case of course)

He is paid to review the book, not to read all.

Do restaurant critics eat the whole menu to evaluate or ask for their "full course" annd the restaurante chef decides what to serve? If he serves his worst that is his fault alone.


I don't know any book reviewer read 50 pages of the book and say " This book is boring so I gave it a F cause it was boring at the opening ". Err, how about the rest of the book ?

"Don't do anything halfway" , but game reviewer is a diffirence story. They could play it halfway and told us they are not like it. Anyway, it's just different opinions from diffirent persons, why take it so serious if you're enjoying the game ?



 

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shenlong213 said:
DonFerrari said:

He is paid to review the book, not to read all.

Do restaurant critics eat the whole menu to evaluate or ask for their "full course" annd the restaurante chef decides what to serve? If he serves his worst that is his fault alone.


I don't know any book reviewer read 50 pages of the book and say " This book is boring so I gave it a F cause it was boring at the opening ". Err, how about the rest of the book ?

"Don't do anything halfway" , but game reviewer is a diffirence story. They could play it halfway and told us they are not like it. Anyway, it's just different opinions from diffirent persons, why take it so serious if you're enjoying the game ?

So if a reviewer read a book and said it's ubber garbage on the first 500 pages but them on the last 10 it becomes incredibly interesting would you read it?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Zekkyou said:
Mummelmann said:
FFXIII got an 83 on the PS3, biased reviewers are the worst.


Yup. Your avatar makes that clear. I liked it too. The game is all about style.



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DonFerrari said:
shenlong213 said:


I don't know any book reviewer read 50 pages of the book and say " This book is boring so I gave it a F cause it was boring at the opening ". Err, how about the rest of the book ?

"Don't do anything halfway" , but game reviewer is a diffirence story. They could play it halfway and told us they are not like it. Anyway, it's just different opinions from diffirent persons, why take it so serious if you're enjoying the game ?

So if a reviewer read a book and said it's ubber garbage on the first 500 pages but them on the last 10 it becomes incredibly interesting would you read it?


Wow ! Such wow ! from 50 pages to 500 pages, how incredible numbers could jump !!



 

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PSN : DarkLong213

Personally I don't think that reviewers should be required to complete an entire game to give their opinion on it, as long as they are honest with the readers how much they completed before writing up the review. Sometimes life gets in the way and unfortunately an incomplete review one week after release will always do better than a complete one 3 weeks after release.



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