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Cool to see that we will get Red Faction:Guerrilla Remastered, I never got the chance to play it besides the demo. I love open world games.



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I think the digital announcement will somehow tie the new avatars with games.



I don't like the windows 10 stuff. They need to release their games on steam. Microsoft's store is trash. Games like halo 6 and age of empire could do 5+ million on steam. But they will struggle to hit 1 million on windows.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

I don't understand what the big problem is with the window store on PC? Granted, I've only bought one game from it, but I didn't have any issues and it seems fine to me. Sure it's no dedicated gaming store like Steam but it's not anywhere near as bad as some say. The only way the window store will grow is having games like Age of Empire and so forth be exclusive.



hudsoniscool said:
I don't like the windows 10 stuff. They need to release their games on steam. Microsoft's store is trash. Games like halo 6 and age of empire could do 5+ million on steam. But they will struggle to hit 1 million on windows.

I totally disagree with this. While Microsoft can easily make a lot of money from Steam that's a bad decision to release everything to Steam and giving up on Microsoft Store. Also I believe that this won't happen because it seems that Microsoft will try to push a Windows10/Xbox ecosystem this year which should help them build a large userbase together to attract developers to it. That's something that in my opinion they should do. As we've seen a lot of PS4/PC or even PS4/Switch/PC games which skip Xbox entirely. I know that PC gamers won't like it but Microsoft need to make UWP a standard for PC gaming. That will help Xbox a lot. Because the unified Xbox+Win10 userbase should somewhere around PS4 userbase size I suppose.

Though Microsoft can embrace Steam if Valve agrees to do the following:

- Steam should support UWP so Microsoft can sell those games there without wasting additional resources for Win32 version.

- Games on Steam should be able to use Xbox Live.

- XBL games on Steam should require Microsoft Account and automatically be tied to that account (To allow Play Anywhere)

- Following the previous point it should be obvious that Microsoft will decide what price they will set on their games, not Valve. (Basically Microsoft need to have full control over their games on Steam with Valve being just a re-seller and taking 30% off from Steam transactions)

- Also coming from 3rd point games should not be tied to Steam forever. Ypu should be able to download it from Microsoft Store if you want.

- (Wishful thinking) Microsoft needs to cooperate with Valve to create proper Xbox Live - SteamPlay bridge for proper crossplay. From what I've heard it doesn't work the way it should. 

Though despite all this stuff I would've preferred if Microsoft continued to improve Microsoft Store and made it much better to fix all the stuff that PC gamers aren't satisfied with.



 

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They should give the option to check or whatever what game you met your Xbox friends from.

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Sorry but the windows store is a pile of crap, and pc users haven't accepted it. And they won't unless ms fixes it. And even then they don't want to leave their ecosystem. It will never be 1/10th the size of steam. It's probably 1/1000th the size now at best. Anything ms sends their will die. Halo or age of empire could get a million sells maybe.

 

 I just want their games to be successful. A time and time launch for Xbox/windows/steam for quantum break, sunset overdrive  would have saved those games. Ms got really tight with money because a lot of their games where underperforming. That wouldn't have happened with steam releases. I can only imagine how big halo 5 would have been on steam. The competitive nature of that game would have been perfect for it. 

 

Spend the next 2 years fixing it. In the meantime give incentives to play on windows instead of steam. After it's running good maybe stop putting new releases on steam if windows store adoption is high.

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Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

To cut down the cost of the third Forza franchise, Microsoft should go with something thing like a mash up between PGR and Burnout Takedown. Utilize the same licences, engine, mechanics and soundtrack of Motorsport & Horizon. In that way, the three franchises can grow together as well, like what happen now with the current two.



hudsoniscool said:

Sorry but the windows store is a pile of crap, and pc users haven't accepted it. And they won't unless ms fixes it. And even then they don't want to leave their ecosystem. It will never be 1/10th the size of steam. It's probably 1/1000th the size now at best. Anything ms sends their will die. Halo or age of empire could get a million sells maybe.

 

 I just want their games to be successful. A time and time launch for Xbox/windows/steam for quantum break, sunset overdrive  would have saved those games. Ms got really tight with money because a lot of their games where underperforming. That wouldn't have happened with steam releases. I can only imagine how big halo 5 would have been on steam. The competitive nature of that game would have been perfect for it. 

 

Spend the next 2 years fixing it. In the meantime give incentives to play on windows instead of steam. After it's running good maybe stop putting new releases on steam if windows store adoption is high.

No. PC gamers are dreaming about MS putting their games on Steam. Once they do that they won't have the option to go back without pissing off a lot of PC gamers. About games being successful. Putting sunset overdrive on Steam would have helped the game probably but that's not the case for Quantum Break. The problem with this game wasn't with its method of distribution. But with the marketing for it. Also, as I've said Microsoft should be thinking about fixing the problem with Xbox not getting some games first and then about some success even if they will end up losing some money right now.



 

I too think they should not release their games on Steam. They need them to stay exclusive to their store.
Releasing them on Steam at a later date or even on the same day only devalues their own store. It's never going to grow that way.

However if they release them also on Steam, then MS should make sure that the game is $10 cheaper on their own store. After all they get 100% of the revenue there, when on Steam they only get 70%.