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Is the Wii U doomed?

Yes 586 59.19%
 
No 404 40.81%
 
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I have to disagree to a degree, I think they are just trying to soften the blow, there are still a lot of games coming to Wii U that I am excited for like Splatoon, Devil's Third, Rodea, Project Treasure, Pokken, Fatal Frame, SMTxFE etc, I think there are still plenty of games to go.



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So... Nintendo should have done what Sony did for the PS3? By that, do you mean bleed money?

Sony lost TONS of money on the PS3. You could argue that it may have been worth it in the long run, but the way Nintendo is built, they couldn't have done it. They're not an electronics company, they only make games, and they have a history of basically always making money. They couldn't endure years of the kinds of losses Sony took on the PS3.

I'm not arguing they did a good job with the Wii U, but they couldn't have done what Sony did.



Wii U is the first Nintendo console that dissapoints me.



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JWeinCom said:
So... Nintendo should have done what Sony did for the PS3? By that, do you mean bleed money?

Sony lost TONS of money on the PS3. You could argue that it may have t the way Nintendo is built, they couldn't have done it. They're not an electronics company, they only make games, and they have a history of basically always making money. They couldn't endure years of the kinds of losses Sony took on the PS3.

I'm not arguing they did a good job with the Wii U, but they couldn't have done what Sony did.


At one point during the Wii gen, they were making $5 billion a year. I don't expect them to bleed money, just reinvest a decent portion of their profits.



Locknuts said:
JWeinCom said:
So... Nintendo should have done what Sony did for the PS3? By that, do you mean bleed money?

Sony lost TONS of money on the PS3. You could argue that it may have t the way Nintendo is built, they couldn't have done it. They're not an electronics company, they only make games, and they have a history of basically always making money. They couldn't endure years of the kinds of losses Sony took on the PS3.

I'm not arguing they did a good job with the Wii U, but they couldn't have done what Sony did.


At one point during the Wii gen, they were making $5 billion a year. I don't expect them to bleed money, just reinvest a decent portion of their profits.


$5 billion a year?! Are you sure? Btw Nintendo's profits and losses are transparent. But Sony's are not. They just shuffle the profits and losses from other divisions just to make the PS division look rosier than it should be.



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Goodnightmoon said:

I just want to remember that WiiU is still the console with best quality library of the big 3, Quantity =/= quality, even with the multiplatforms they don´t beat the WiiU exclusives. We have a little troll here that is probably going to be perma-banned but says one thing right, the great and wonderfull ps4 has like ONE top notch game on its library, and there aren´t many good multiplats this days, Dragon Age Inquisition (also on PC, XBO, X360, PS3) and little more. Few games to justify a console, but anyone blame it for anything just because its selling fine and is having quantity, but no quality. And The amount of great exclusives on WiiU is just growing up, now there´s a drought, but then we´ll have at least 2 of the best games of this year. Between May and December there´s an average of 1 retail exclusive per month... there´s any other dev making that amount of exclusives for their console?. Of course NOT. If that´s leaving the console to die...sorry they are not GOD, they can´t make the same amount of games that a console with 30 third-parties supporting them. And still most of the top games of this generation are.... yes on WiiU, the console that ony Nintendo support. Give them a little credit.


Nintendo fucked it up at first and now they have to keep the WiiU floating just with their titles... and they are doing it! I don´t know if any other developer would be able to support a console in the same way. 

So true, i have all 3 consoles right now and the most fun I have is on the wii u and and the master chief collection.  The only other game I was blow away by was a ps3 port of the last of us I played the first time on ps4.



Locknuts said:
JWeinCom said:
So... Nintendo should have done what Sony did for the PS3? By that, do you mean bleed money?

Sony lost TONS of money on the PS3. You could argue that it may have t the way Nintendo is built, they couldn't have done it. They're not an electronics company, they only make games, and they have a history of basically always making money. They couldn't endure years of the kinds of losses Sony took on the PS3.

I'm not arguing they did a good job with the Wii U, but they couldn't have done what Sony did.


At one point during the Wii gen, they were making $5 billion a year. I don't expect them to bleed money, just reinvest a decent portion of their profits.

What do you consider a decent amount?  Cause spending money without any hope of a return on that investment tends to get executives fired.  Nintendo has lasted this long by being a conservative company.  The money they made during the Wii generation keeps them alive when things like the Wii U happen.  Financially, they're better off using that money on things like NX, their mobile plans, Amiibo, etc.

As a fan, I see limited value in third party games.  So far, there have been precisely one third party game (Dead Rising 3) that I wanted to play, but couldn't play on my Wii U or last gen systems.  So, I don't think that would have been a good use of money.  To get a decent ROI, Nintendo would have to take charge in funding a TON of third party content, which would be difficult to arrange (companies aren't thrilled in giving up control of their IP, or going exclusive if they don't have to), and expensive.  

They made a lot of mistakes with the Wii U, but dumping more money into it wasn't going to help matters.



Everyone will be singing a different tune when Zelda U does come out. It is sad that the Wii U's mid gen releases seem like they are still sparse when this is the year most consoles are hitting their stride with a steady stream of games. I'm even getting a little aggravated that Nintendo isn't making sure we get more, but every game I do own for it is a complete gem. That said I completely understand consumer concern and even a rising lack of confidence in the system. 2 years is still enough time to get some of that confidence back if they would just ensure a killer next two years. It would start with a killer E3.



Zelda is delayed and all of the sudden the sky is falling

We still have Splatoon, Star Fox, Devil's Third, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Yoshi's Woolly World, Mario Maker and E3 this year....just chill



Locknuts said:

I think it's time to face it guys: Nintendo has left their main console to die.

Even with the billions they made from the Wii/DS era, and after they saw that they couldn't develop HD games fast enough, they didn't do what was necessary to ensure that the Wii U had a steady flow of content. They should have done as Sony did with the PS3 and paid out the ass to save their reputation as a hardware manufacturer.

They should have paid for content. Plain and simple. GTA, Far Cry, Bioshock, all those big western games. But Iwata seems to be too much of a tightass to spend money on anything that Nintendo doesn't at least partially own. Does that make good business sense? Well Iwata is the businessman and I guess he thinks so, but as a customer I'm not confident enough in their next system to buy it. Sadly after the atrocious Wii and the abandonment of the potentially wonderful Wii U, I don't ever see myself buying another piece of Nintendo hardware.

The Zelda delay is the writing on the wall people. The Wii U is now officially doomed. I hope like hell that XCX and Splatoon are all they're cracked up to be, because they're the last major games we're going to see until the next system comes out.

I rag on Sony a lot, but what they did with the PS3 was glorious and I respect them for that, I wish Iwata had the cojones to do the same.

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Roundtable.  Roundtable, roundtable, roundtable.  Iwata is in no different position than another president, Obama: when it comes to making big decisions, he cannot make them alone.  This can be a good and bad thing but in Nintendo's case it's almost always a bad thing when, let's say Iwata's western advisors tell him to do exactly what you say.  He presents it to a roundtable of 60+ year old millionare suits who know as much about video games as a rhinoceros' ass and gets shot down by every single one, every single time.

It's not always about Iwata being a dumbass.  I'm sure the dude understands video games he made a multitude of them and knows what would make Nintendo money.  But when you have a blockade of "no men", you can't always do what's best for the company.



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