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platformmaster918 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
platformmaster918 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Are people honestly trying to say The Order wasn't hyped? LOL

there was definitely more negativity and skepticism than hype.  I don't know how many times I said it would be CALLED hyped after launch despite the ridiculous fud campaign.  Most "hype" was people saying to wait and see or defending weird criticisms like it not being open world.  It was not praise just defense from haters, which is reasonable and not overhype.  It was pretty clear to most that it would be divisive.

Whether there was more negativity or skepticism than hype is completely irrelevant to whether it was hyped or not (I disagree, but who cares). There was loads of hype. And why wouldn't you say it would be called hyped after the launch? This is like the third or fourth time I've seen you point out that you "called it" in regards to people saying the game was hyped. Why do you need to "call" people putting the hyped label on one of the most hyped games of the year? Lets just go ahead and get it out of the way that Zelda Wii U, Halo 5, and Uncharted 4 will also be called "hyped" after launch. Let it be known that I made this prediction first.

And there's nothing "weird" about the complaints people had about the game. People who you funnily enough dub "haters". The hype must have really grabbed ahold of you on this one, buddy :(

nope a man has reasonable expectations like most.  Your perception of "hype" is apparently people defending it from people who wanted to hate every little detail and the sub-genre it was a part of.  If there are more negative articles than the game is not hyped.  I do agree Zelda U, Uncharted 4, and Halo 5 will be hyped.  This was a new IP that was greeted with everything from reasonable excitement (usually with some skepticism) to unreasonable hate.  Not overhyped sorry.


Well for starters, even thousand post threads on GAF full of people bickering is still hype. Some people apparently dont know what hype is. Positive or negative is irrelevant. Also, you have to have two sides of the coin. You can blame all the supporters responding as "defense against haters", i could just as easily say the people criticizing the game were responding because of the "blind defenders".

Either way there has been tons of hype. Idk why it bothers you that people bring it up. It wont change the metascore or anything. How many Sony games do you see posters for at Walmart? Hung by Sony reps themselves? So much discussion that the developers feel inclined to comment multiple times just in the week before release? And lets not act as if The Order hasnt been high on preorder charts for awhile and hasnt been generating loads of positive talk from PS fans all across the Internet. The hype might have turned negative in the last week (rightfully so) but the hype was always there.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
platformmaster918 said:

nope a man has reasonable expectations like most.  Your perception of "hype" is apparently people defending it from people who wanted to hate every little detail and the sub-genre it was a part of.  If there are more negative articles than the game is not hyped.  I do agree Zelda U, Uncharted 4, and Halo 5 will be hyped.  This was a new IP that was greeted with everything from reasonable excitement (usually with some skepticism) to unreasonable hate.  Not overhyped sorry.


Well for starters, even thousand post threads on GAF full of people bickering is still hype. Some people apparently dont know what hype is. Positive or negative is irrelevant. Also, you have to have two sides of the coin. You can blame all the supporters responding as "defense against haters", i could just as easily say the people criticizing the game were responding because of the "blind defenders".

Either way there has been tons of hype. Idk why it bothers you that people bring it up. It wont change the metascore or anything. How many Sony games do you see posters for at Walmart? Hung by Sony reps themselves? So much discussion that the developers feel inclined to comment multiple times just in the week before release? And lets not act as if The Order hasnt been high on preorder charts for awhile and hasnt been generating loads of positive talk from PS fans all across the Internet. The hype might have turned negative in the last week (rightfully so) but the hype was always there.

Ummm lol ok you're clearly confusing hype with publicity.  You could say that if the initial articles that most of these threads were based off of weren't negative to start out with.  To put it in simple terms, the haters were starting it for the most part.  Clearly there were blind defenders but from what I saw they were very few in number comparatively and didn't go out of their way to make as many articles praising the game as haters did smearing it.  If that wasn't what you saw fine but don't try to make everything that is said about the game into hype.  Otherwise the term "overhype" has no meaning.  You're just using it in place of publicity or general advertisement.  Fans can't help that there's TV commercials for it and the fact that there were so many arguments about it shows a skepticism which flies in the face of hype.  It would be one thing if I saw a bunch of people saying "ZOMG The Order is gonna be the defining game of the gen!" but there weren't nearly as many of those (I'm sure they existed in very very small numbers which doesn't factor into this argument) as "this is a travesty to gaming" or just generally nitpicking at every turn.  To be fair I saw the same thing happen with Ryse.  It wasn't very hyped and when it came out people still put words in the Xbox community's mouth saying that it was hyped.  Most knew Crytek was there for graphics.  Same situation here.




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Ok so you just don't understand hype. It's cool. But The Order had loads of hype.



Wasnt overhyped at all.
Is it really that hard to remember all the negative comments about its resolution, colour scheme and the doubts about its gameplay length?

The only positive hype I saw was about the animation, graphical detail and the word 'atmosphere' being mentioned a lot, but cant we all agree that it met that hype? and therefore is pointless calling it overhype?



small44 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Ryse isnt anything like God of War. Its more like Assassins Creed and Batman Arkham and as bad as it is its probably the best Action Adventure game Microsoft will have until Platinum gets done making a real hack n slash on their platform. Platinum Games makes titles which are more akin to God of War. 

It look similar to me at least some details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9K3IssGTLw

Microsoft can pay to fund a product that is the closest to what Sony delivers but they didnt manage to get close enough past that video. Pathetic attempt even when the money was external.



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platformmaster918 said:
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Schitzo? Is that the best you could do to downplay?

If you're doing two things at once that are both visual then you're not getting the most out of either.  Don't act like you can watch two things at once and get the same as if you're watching just one.  Gamers of all people should know what immersion is.  Now that that's settled let's get back to the thread.  Pretty funny eh?

Bah, didn't you read the OP. He was talking about COD left and Michael Bay right. Both only need 10% of your concentration, so 80% of your brain are still free for other stuff - like talking to the girlfriend.



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fps_d0minat0r said:
Wasnt overhyped at all.
Is it really that hard to remember all the negative comments about its resolution, colour scheme and the doubts about its gameplay length?

The only positive hype I saw was about the animation, graphical detail and the word 'atmosphere' being mentioned a lot, but cant we all agree that it met that hype? and therefore is pointless calling it overhype?

Would have anyone bothered to make threads about The Order (and even that much), if the game didn't got some hype?



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
small44 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Ryse isnt anything like God of War. Its more like Assassins Creed and Batman Arkham and as bad as it is its probably the best Action Adventure game Microsoft will have until Platinum gets done making a real hack n slash on their platform. Platinum Games makes titles which are more akin to God of War. 

It look similar to me at least some details

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9K3IssGTLw

Microsoft can pay to fund a product that is the closest to what Sony delivers but they didnt manage to get close enough past that video. Pathetic attempt even when the money was external.

I think they try to make a game gore like God of war



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starcraft said:
Jokes aside, given the insane hype, divisive nature of the title, and ultimately inadequate product, it feels more like Lair than anything else.

I'll still try to rent it tonight. See how it is.


No, we go further back with this one starcraft. The Order is one specific game for the ps2 called The Bouncer. The only difference is, no one remembers "The Bouncer" because the large internet gaming communities weren't really introduced.

Given Bouncer was wildly forgotten, one because better looking games were released soon after, and secondly people didn't talk about it non-stop after it came out. (It also had hype before hand).