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celador on 01 December 2014
walsufnir said:
celador said:
walsufnir said:
 


Wait, what? How do you get the feeling I am enjoying this? Serious question.

You can tell you enjoy it from your language.  Calling it an 'achievement' and using '...' suggests to me you are trying to push people to a conclusion


To hack a big company like this and especially gaining that much information *and* data is, in hacking context, a very big achievement and shows that there was a lot of effort put into this and that the security concepts were not as professional as they should be.

This is surely harming people but I am talking about what the hackers achieved with their hacking. I don't remember anything that big in the recent years. This is not me being happy this happened to Sony, to be clear.

OK. I hold my hands up.  I was wrong.

It just wasn't the way I would have worded it, that's all



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walsufnir on 01 December 2014
mornelithe said:

Doesn't really matter, honestly. The folks who were going to pirate it, were going to pirate it anyway. So, the damage will be minimal.

Sony should probably start thinking about investing in the quantum computing machines, though.  Impossible to hack (at least, as far as I'm aware).


You don't have to use quantum computing (and then it probably won't be of any real use) but there are some security design concepts and best practices that prevent a hack like this, if done right.

Sadly, IT departments are almost always too small and really good people are mostly too expensive for companies. The results are known.



NiKKoM on 01 December 2014

Whats up with the forum today? I have the feeling if i say the word "pie" i'll get lynched for being negative to any of the consoles..



 

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walsufnir on 01 December 2014
celador said:
walsufnir said:
celador said:

You can tell you enjoy it from your language.  Calling it an 'achievement' and using '...' suggests to me you are trying to push people to a conclusion


To hack a big company like this and especially gaining that much information *and* data is, in hacking context, a very big achievement and shows that there was a lot of effort put into this and that the security concepts were not as professional as they should be.

This is surely harming people but I am talking about what the hackers achieved with their hacking. I don't remember anything that big in the recent years. This is not me being happy this happened to Sony, to be clear.

OK. I hold my hands up.  I was wrong.

It just wasn't the way I would have worded it, that's all


I work in IT and especially for an ISP, so my everyday business is networking and security so I guess my glasses are just different in this context.



mornelithe on 01 December 2014
walsufnir said:
mornelithe said:

Doesn't really matter, honestly. The folks who were going to pirate it, were going to pirate it anyway. So, the damage will be minimal.

Sony should probably start thinking about investing in the quantum computing machines, though.  Impossible to hack (at least, as far as I'm aware).


You don't have to use quantum computing (and then it probably won't be of any real use) but there are some security design concepts and best practices that prevent a hack like this, if done right.

Sadly, IT departments are almost always too small and really good people are mostly too expensive for companies. The results are known.

True, but Sony isn't a networking company, they've only ever had to care about it since the PSN.  So, it's not really up their alley.  An easy fix would be quantum networks, which, as I said, are in theory, unhackable.

Frankly, the issue here is the inability of police/international authorities to deal with international hackers, and the problem is only going to get worse.



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foodfather on 01 December 2014

There was a time were this sort of stuff would make me smile, and certainly people would agree that Sony deserveed it and to make them improve on their online / network infrastructure. However this is unwarranted and taking it too far.



Tachikoma on 01 December 2014

screeners get leaked all the frigging time, either cloning of cinema releases to digital file, or people jacking the files they use on in flight entertainment units that usually air movies before dvd/blu ray release.

ignoring that completely, these "leaked" files list as 0 seeds, 0 peers...

le sigh, must be a slow news day



walsufnir on 01 December 2014
mornelithe said:
walsufnir said:
mornelithe said:

Doesn't really matter, honestly. The folks who were going to pirate it, were going to pirate it anyway. So, the damage will be minimal.

Sony should probably start thinking about investing in the quantum computing machines, though.  Impossible to hack (at least, as far as I'm aware).


You don't have to use quantum computing (and then it probably won't be of any real use) but there are some security design concepts and best practices that prevent a hack like this, if done right.

Sadly, IT departments are almost always too small and really good people are mostly too expensive for companies. The results are known.

True, but Sony isn't a networking company, they've only ever had to care about it since the PSN.  So, it's not really up their alley.  An easy fix would be quantum networks, which, as I said, are in theory, unhackable.

Frankly, the issue here is the inability of police/international authorities to deal with international hackers, and the problem is only going to get worse.


A professional company can't hide behind "we are no networking company". If you don't have the knowledge, you have to buy it, as easy as this.



mornelithe on 01 December 2014
walsufnir said:

A professional company can't hide behind "we are no networking company". If you don't have the knowledge, you have to buy it, as easy as this.

Uh yeah, Boeing, couldn't keep hackers out, major financial firms couldn't keep hackers out, etc... you think Sony will ever have better security than a military contractor?  You're blaming the victim, when you should be blaming the criminal.  If this were rape, you'd be telling a woman she dressed like a whore.  Good call.



vivster on 01 December 2014

Still not convinced a real hack actually happened.



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