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binary solo said:
VXIII said:
binary solo said:
Seemed like hack'n'slash in slow motion, without combos.

You are usually one of my favorite posters here. So don't ruin you image by NOT basing your judgment on the in-depth info that we have.

It is about combo, it is about the flow of motion while interacting with the party members (gambits) and the world elements.

I don't want to damage my reputation so I should clarify. I started watching the video wanting to be impressed by the gameplay, but I wasn't. I don't think needing to explain to people how it is that the gameplay is exciting is a very good sign, so I did not look to read in-depth info to explain it.

As I was watching, and not being impressed by what I was seeing, I was trying to think about why I'm not impressed, and hack'n'slash in slow motion without combos is what came to mind. I don't mind slow-motion combat per se, but when it has the appearance of hack'n'slash style play then pace is a key element, to me. And combos with awesome animations are part of it too.

That's not to say I am entirely put off the game. I can overlook relatively uninspired combat gameplay if there is strong story and engaging characters. In fact as an ageing gamer I seem to care much more about story and characters than combat gameplay these days, especially if a game is going to hold my interest for more than 10 hours.

Well, games need to be played not watched in order to give a precise judgment. But that is not possible for an unreleased game and not really practical.

Watching games can be very misleading if there are elements that not obvious. So no harm in getting informed. There is depth to it, it is not a hack&slash by any mean, at least according to the info presented.

Personally, the importance of story / gameplay is 50/50. I can overlook a good-ish gameplay but not a generic story and character. I also value the small details like subtle animation and music. It is all a part of what makes the game world immersive.

I have a feeling that you are going to like this game



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I will give SE or rather Tabata some credit though. He's being far more upfront and not BSing us trying to hide facts and nor is he sugarcoating anything. If anything he might have been undercoating it throwing around the word casual.

Don't really know who said there would be character switching in FFXV's past articles..although I'm thinking it was Nomura. If it was because it got taken out later in development, it's better they tell us now rather than us finding it out ourselves playing the demo/game.



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Shadow1980 said:

It looks pretty, but I'm not digging this more action-oriented combat. Final Fantasy is becoming less and less like a traditional JRPG. I miss combat systems like the ones from FFIV, Chrono Trigger, and Lunar. The 16-bit era was the Golden Age of the JRPG as far as I'm concerned.

Well, to be fair, traditional JRPGs don't normally sell enough to warrant a AAA console budget. Final Fantasy is the only real exception and this is a series that's been constantly evolving with each iteration.



VXIII said:

This is the most daring project in SE history. I just admire that. I wish people would just be open minded and try to understand it for what it is.

That would never happen on the Internet though :)


Without Final Fantasy's existence Square would've ceased to exist. They are living in the shadow of the formula saved the company in the first place (Sakaguchi's formula which they havent been able to work around since he left). This would be the second most daring project on the same franchise which saved square all those years ago.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
VXIII said:

This is the most daring project in SE history. I just admire that. I wish people would just be open minded and try to understand it for what it is.

That would never happen on the Internet though :)


Without Final Fantasy's existence Square would've ceased to exist. They are living in the shadow of the formula saved the company in the first place (Sakaguchi's formula which they havent been able to work around since he left). This would be the second most daring project on the same franchise which saved square all those years ago.

Hum... No. Square-ENIX isn't on the verge of collapse and doesn't need to be saved. They're a big publisher now with a lot of franchises that sell well, including Dragon Quest, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy (even if some fans don't like the newer games, they are still selling well), Deus Ex, etc...

People like you don't seem to understand that Squaresoft isn't an entity anymore. 





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Hynad said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VXIII said:

This is the most daring project in SE history. I just admire that. I wish people would just be open minded and try to understand it for what it is.

That would never happen on the Internet though :)


Without Final Fantasy's existence Square would've ceased to exist. They are living in the shadow of the formula saved the company in the first place (Sakaguchi's formula which they havent been able to work around since he left). This would be the second most daring project on the same franchise which saved square all those years ago.

Hum... No. Square-ENIX isn't on the verge of collapse and doesn't need to be saved. They're a big publisher now with a lot of franchises that sell well, including Dragon Quest, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy (even if some fans don't like the newer games, they are still selling well), Deus Ex, etc...

People like you don't seem to understand that Squaresoft isn't an entity anymore. 



I wasn't talking about Square Enix. He's right about it being an important project in the history of SE but the legacy is that of Square and not Square Enix hence why I went back to history. I also know that Square Enix is not on the verge of collapse. I was selling the value of Final Fantasies existence even amongst all of the franchises that Square Enix own and its history of risk entwined. Square Enix know nothing of the glory days. My point was the shadow of Sakaguchi...which has been a dark cloud over the development for Final Fantasy since he left (The Square formula which haunts Square Enix). I'm sure you've seen Lost Odyssey, the man still uses it and has succeeded to greater effect gameplay-wise than any other final fantasy in the last gen no matter while style he used. Final Fantasy's new steps need to be dealt with surgically in order to take it into the new world outside of its past. I'm actually speaking in the manner of liberating it. Its optimism.

Thanks for telling me what "people like you (obviously me)" don't seem to understand. 

Context. I never uttered a word about SE.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Hynad said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
VXIII said:

This is the most daring project in SE history. I just admire that. I wish people would just be open minded and try to understand it for what it is.

That would never happen on the Internet though :)


Without Final Fantasy's existence Square would've ceased to exist. They are living in the shadow of the formula saved the company in the first place (Sakaguchi's formula which they havent been able to work around since he left). This would be the second most daring project on the same franchise which saved square all those years ago.

Hum... No. Square-ENIX isn't on the verge of collapse and doesn't need to be saved. They're a big publisher now with a lot of franchises that sell well, including Dragon Quest, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy (even if some fans don't like the newer games, they are still selling well), Deus Ex, etc...

People like you don't seem to understand that Squaresoft isn't an entity anymore. 



I wasn't talking about Square Enix. He's right about it being an important project in the history of SE but the legacy is that of Square and not Square Enix hence why I went back to history. I also know that Square Enix is not on the verge of collapse. I was selling the value of Final Fantasies existence even amongst all of the franchises that Square Enix own and its history of risk entwined. Square Enix know nothing of the glory days. My point was the shadow of Sakaguchi...which has been a dark cloud over the development for Final Fantasy since he left (The Square formula which haunts Square Enix). I'm sure you've seen Lost Odyssey, the man still uses it and has succeeded to greater effect gameplay-wise than any other final fantasy in the last gen no matter while style he used. Final Fantasy's new steps need to be dealt with surgically in order to take it into the new world outside of its past. I'm actually speaking in the manner of liberating it. Its optimism.

Thanks for telling me what "people like you (obviously me)" don't seem to understand. 

Context. I never uttered a word about SE.


Whatever you say S.T.A.G.E.. *rollseye*



Sometimes you have to accept that something is gone, that its over.
Like everything will be over one day.
Go and play the many old rpgs that you havent played yet.
Or play those games that you havent played for many years.
And let Final Fantasy rest in peace now.

And with this mindset, you cant be dissapointed in FF15.



''Hadouken!''

Hynad said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:



I wasn't talking about Square Enix. He's right about it being an important project in the history of SE but the legacy is that of Square and not Square Enix hence why I went back to history. I also know that Square Enix is not on the verge of collapse. I was selling the value of Final Fantasies existence even amongst all of the franchises that Square Enix own and its history of risk entwined. Square Enix know nothing of the glory days. My point was the shadow of Sakaguchi...which has been a dark cloud over the development for Final Fantasy since he left (The Square formula which haunts Square Enix). I'm sure you've seen Lost Odyssey, the man still uses it and has succeeded to greater effect gameplay-wise than any other final fantasy in the last gen no matter while style he used. Final Fantasy's new steps need to be dealt with surgically in order to take it into the new world outside of its past. I'm actually speaking in the manner of liberating it. Its optimism.

Thanks for telling me what "people like you (obviously me)" don't seem to understand. 

Context. I never uttered a word about SE.


Whatever you say S.T.A.G.E.. *rollseye*


I guess I made zero sense. Its not the first time we've disagreed or agreed, but I am sensing judgement throughout. 



The Fantasy is never Final. Just like the Call of Duty is always on duty.