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Hynad said:
gamemaster4747 said:
I don't care what anyone says. True FF is about menus that give options like fight, magic, run, item. All players should be fully controllable. The traditional ff theme music like the crystal theme and victory theme should be there. FF is ruined. I bought every FF until 13. Yes, even 12 gave some respect to tradition. 13 killed it. FF15 may be a good game on it's own, but it is not FF.It doesn't deserve the name! Oh, and I didn't even finish 13 and got rid of it.


Nothing was killed. The series evolved over time while you didn't. It's no big deal. You get to replay those older games if you have them.

Taking away the freedom to play all your characters is evolving? No, it is devolving.



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Hynad said:
deskpro2k3 said:

They say its difficult to switch and play as other characters, yet they had no problems with it on versus 13 on the PS3. PS3 > PS4/Xbox One confirmed! Th3 pow3r of the C3LL.

No problem with it on Versus XIII on the PS3? That must be why that game got released, right?

are you just oblivious to the fact that they showed them switching characters in the PS3 trailer when it was called Versus XIII? You know, you seem oblivious about a lot of things.



I don't know why I keep playing Final Fantasy. The glory of FF6 will never repeat itself and this game is only disappointing me even more with each announcement



deskpro2k3 said:
Hynad said:
deskpro2k3 said:

They say its difficult to switch and play as other characters, yet they had no problems with it on versus 13 on the PS3. PS3 > PS4/Xbox One confirmed! Th3 pow3r of the C3LL.

No problem with it on Versus XIII on the PS3? That must be why that game got released, right?

are you just oblivious to the fact that they showed them switching characters in the PS3 trailer when it was called Versus XIII? You know, you seem oblivious about a lot of things.


You seem oblivious to the fact that the game wasn't released and went through quite some development troubles. At no point what you saw during the PS3 era was anything final. You're also obviously oblivious to sarcasm, among the countless things you're oblivious to. Like how they "changed the battle speed since Nomura isn't director". Which was quite laughable, to say the least, considering the latest video we have of the game. ^_-




Hynad said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Hynad said:
deskpro2k3 said:

They say its difficult to switch and play as other characters, yet they had no problems with it on versus 13 on the PS3. PS3 > PS4/Xbox One confirmed! Th3 pow3r of the C3LL.

No problem with it on Versus XIII on the PS3? That must be why that game got released, right?

are you just oblivious to the fact that they showed them switching characters in the PS3 trailer when it was called Versus XIII? You know, you seem oblivious about a lot of things.


You seem oblivious to the fact that the game wasn't released and went through quite some development troubles. At no point what you saw during the PS3 era was anything final. You're also obviously oblivious to sarcasm, among the countless things you're oblivious to.


You're the one that is oblivious to sarcasm for quoting me in the first place. Oblivious and a condition you have.

Moderated,

-Mr Khan



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deskpro2k3 said:
Hynad said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Hynad said:

No problem with it on Versus XIII on the PS3? That must be why that game got released, right?

are you just oblivious to the fact that they showed them switching characters in the PS3 trailer when it was called Versus XIII? You know, you seem oblivious about a lot of things.


You seem oblivious to the fact that the game wasn't released and went through quite some development troubles. At no point what you saw during the PS3 era was anything final. You're also obviously oblivious to sarcasm, among the countless things you're oblivious to.


You're the one that is oblivious to sarcasm for quoting me in the first place. Oblivious and a condition you have.


Good luck with that.




RenderMonk said:
It's hard not to be disappointed by what I'm seeing/hearing from FFXV lately. Going back to the initial reveal trailers (when it was FFvsXIII) it was so dark, and gritty and heavy feeling (something I miss in my FF games). It was supposed to be "a Fantasy based on Reality." The potential that held was phenominal. Was really looking forward to a deep story with complex battles.

From what I've seen of FFXV lately, it looks like we'll get non of that. Appears they are sticking with the formula of the last few games. Keep it light and fast paced, with the emphasis on auto-play. That's not what Final Fantasy's legacy is built on. If they want to reach a broader audience, do it with a new IP, or do it with a different IP. Final Fantasy is (was) a known brand that you knew what you were getting when you got into it. Now, it's anybody's guess....and it's usually for the worse.


To be fair, that's one of the most lame things I've seen in video games "a Fantasy based on reality", seriously? Who wrote that shit?

 

OT: It was a good video and the interview managed to clarify a lot of things. It looks fast paced, and interesting, but nothing mindblowing.



Hynad said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Hynad said:
deskpro2k3 said:
 

are you just oblivious to the fact that they showed them switching characters in the PS3 trailer when it was called Versus XIII? You know, you seem oblivious about a lot of things.


You seem oblivious to the fact that the game wasn't released and went through quite some development troubles. At no point what you saw during the PS3 era was anything final. You're also obviously oblivious to sarcasm, among the countless things you're oblivious to.


You're the one that is oblivious to sarcasm for quoting me in the first place. Oblivious and a condition you have.


Good luck with that.


I insist you keep your luck for getting over your condition.

Moderated,

-Mr Khan



benao87 said:
RenderMonk said:
It's hard not to be disappointed by what I'm seeing/hearing from FFXV lately. Going back to the initial reveal trailers (when it was FFvsXIII) it was so dark, and gritty and heavy feeling (something I miss in my FF games). It was supposed to be "a Fantasy based on Reality." The potential that held was phenominal. Was really looking forward to a deep story with complex battles.

From what I've seen of FFXV lately, it looks like we'll get non of that. Appears they are sticking with the formula of the last few games. Keep it light and fast paced, with the emphasis on auto-play. That's not what Final Fantasy's legacy is built on. If they want to reach a broader audience, do it with a new IP, or do it with a different IP. Final Fantasy is (was) a known brand that you knew what you were getting when you got into it. Now, it's anybody's guess....and it's usually for the worse.


To be fair, that's one of the most lame things I've seen in video games "a Fantasy based on reality", seriously? Who wrote that shit?

 

OT: It was a good video and the interview managed to clarify a lot of things. It looks fast paced, and interesting, but nothing mindblowing.

The "Fantasy based on reality" thing was cool when it first came out.  They just kept overusing it and it became a parody of itself almost.  They've stopped using that line now though I believe in the trailers and stuff.

As for the battle system, that was never expected to be the real meat of this game.  It can be dynamic , slow, fast, or bland, but the combat in most RPGs or ARPGs is just a gateway to the better stuff.    

RPG's rely much more on their game design to produce an amazing experience than most other genres.  Mostly because there are so many more levels of design in an RPG and that's what needs to be good for FFXV.  Game design simply put being the elements in a game that the player doesn't really have control over: Difficulty Balance (even if you can set a difficulty level, it's still preset based on what's provided), Number Balancing (Stats, HP, MP), Length of dungeons, Pacing of game, Pacing of Dungeons, What you can and can't do provided by the developers, Where you can and can't go: spacing limitations, and so on.

I'm not expecting the combat system to be incredible or mindblowing but it does look fun.  Regardless, if the options , exploration, side quests, creativity, story and secrets in FFXV aren't up to snuff it's not going to matter how good the combat is.

And that's the stuff we have yet to see that much of besides a few hints here and there.



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I am going to buy it. But I don´t know if I am going to like it.



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