Dirge of cerberus: shooting, getting invaded, get rid of them, getting invaded some more...

This video in this thread:slashing,  getting invaded, get rid of them, getting invaded some more...

The only thing keeping me interested in this game is the E3 2013 video. This was an impressive video. All the videos after that have gotten me worried.

Lightning Returns is probably the least casual FF I've ever played... with maybe FFV as the exception.
FFXIII was probably the most casual. It's annoying when people talk about the whole trilogy as being casual when it's just wrong. Lightning Returns may not be a good game for many. But it is much deeper mechanically, than pretty much any FF.

The story still is not good. And framerate is terrible which will be fixed with PC release hopefully.

Now onto FFXV.

The battle system, looks and sounds like a variant, of KH, with FFXII's gambits, with weapon switching from like Ninja Gaiden. People just took one statement and went batshit insane with it. That is really kinda cool if it works.

It would have been cooler, if each character had their own play style instead of just noctis, as if the combat is good that would increase the replay ability of the game.

That said, I think the kingdom hearts fighting ranges from poor to good (Though it's improved pretty much every game). So my expectations aren't that high and were never that high to begin with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Md7GhVH3vUg

The combat hasn't really changed. You can actually play like the E3 2013 video

They still aren't showing us the gameplay aspects that FF fans actually want to see. What about the options? Manipulation of the battle system to do different things besides just fighting monsters? Synthesis shops? Grinding variants? Stat increase options? Etc.

The combat system was never the thing gameplay-wise that kept people involved with FF games anyways. It was the exploration of the world and more importantly the depth of the exploration of the world. Chrono Cross for instance doesn't have a massive world to explore, but it has so much depth and specific well thought out instances of game progression in every area of the game.

FF consists of numerous components yes. This is the first to completely rid of one of the most notable components being turn based battle. This is a new era of mainline Final Fantasy. That is all I've been trying to say, Infact I was playing devils advocate... Snark remarks like ''you must want to play the same game reskinned every 3 years'' is infact implying a turn based game would equal ''the same game every 3 year'.'

Just remember that this game had ''versus'' in the title for a reason. 

It's hard not to be disappointed by what I'm seeing/hearing from FFXV lately. Going back to the initial reveal trailers (when it was FFvsXIII) it was so dark, and gritty and heavy feeling (something I miss in my FF games). It was supposed to be "a Fantasy based on Reality." The potential that held was phenominal. Was really looking forward to a deep story with complex battles.

From what I've seen of FFXV lately, it looks like we'll get non of that. Appears they are sticking with the formula of the last few games. Keep it light and fast paced, with the emphasis on auto-play. That's not what Final Fantasy's legacy is built on. If they want to reach a broader audience, do it with a new IP, or do it with a different IP. Final Fantasy is (was) a known brand that you knew what you were getting when you got into it. Now, it's anybody's guess....and it's usually for the worse.

They say its difficult to switch and play as other characters, yet they had no problems with it on versus 13 on the PS3. PS3 > PS4/Xbox One confirmed! Th3 pow3r of the C3LL.

"Also, you aren’t invincible. There are attacks you can’t avoid. In those cases, there are also essential technical evasion methods"

These small details really make all the difference, GREAT.

Noctis as the only playable character is actually good news to me.

No problem with it on Versus XIII on the PS3? That must be why that game got released, right?