hated_individual are you in some way involved in Playeressence? I can't fathom there being more than one person in the universe having such a misinformed opinion.

Bayonetta bombed in Japan and Nintendo lost a bunch of cash out of the deal. Nothing else to say. No need to get upset. We're not investors.

I wouldn't and I didn't.

So you know the guy, that explains all of this. You have absolutely zero credibility left at this point.

Well no use wasting time with you then.

If you can't notice that someone behaving like a child blaming others "but but the bad media didn't say anything about the PS4..." (again that's not professional, that's kindergarten) that doesn't have to do anything with Bayonetta 2, then making senseless points like "Bayonetta 2 sold 7 times more than "insert bad selling game here" !!!" is the same as saying "Game X (that sold 7 copies) sold 7 times as much as Game Y (which sold 1 copy)!!!". That's statistical bollocks that doesn't prove anything. Especially when it's thrown into the air like here and isn't explained.

Now you come with Vanquish. Totally off-topic and you don't explain what the hell it's supposed to say ? Nice random information.

I'm not jumping on conclusions.

I know he isn't into the sales topic and thus lacks basis for any kind of deeper discussion (prove being him saying 1 instead of 2 days, mentioning sales and not mention all of the sources, using random multipliers that are supposed to tell us something but don't)
He's very emotional driven and can't hide it even in his "news" which are supposed to be as emotion free as possible. Everything else is a comment.
I've been moderator for long enough to know that emotional driven people are the ones violating the forum rules sooner or later. Arguing with them is futile, as you can write a long post like this and they would either repeat their "points" or answer with a "no".

How about you stop following the "biased" media and this guy and think for yourself instead.

Assuming that person has a PS3 AND a 360. Also assuming that said person didn't already chose the 360 version over the PS3 version. Also assuming that the game isn't in the backlog of said person, also assuming that said person liked the game enough to buy it again.
That's a pretty low likelihood and can't account for many sales.

lol Bayonetta 2 is one of the biggest flops in recent memory in Japan... anyone who tries to deny that obviously does not have (or accept) all the facts.

The franchise went from selling ~200k first charting week to barely reaching 30k... these desperate websites can try to spin the facts as much as they want, but frankly they will be silenced too once the figures for the second and third weeks are out and the game quickly disappears off the face of the earth.

Uh, no.

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/71439/killzone-mercenary/Japan/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/57654/resistance-burning-skies/Japan/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/75667/kagero-darkside-princess/Japan/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/76990/gundam-breaker/Japan/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77889/dragon-ball-z-battle-of-z/Japan/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/72209/the-wonderful-101/Japan/

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/72210/sonic-lost-world/Japan/

LOL KIllzone and Resistance are spin-off shooters, and shooters are not at all popular in Japan. Gundam Breaker is also available on PS3 where it sold well, so taking the sales of the Vita version in isolation is misleading, especially since it was released months after the PS3 version and was a mere port basically. The others have performed disasterously though, but you forget that Bayo 2 is the sequel to a game that sold 300k+ in Japan, unlike the likes of Kagero, for example.

And this does not contradict my point at all... I did say that Bayo 2 is ONE of the biggest flops in recent memory, and that is totally true. The examples you have provided do not add anything new at all, if anything but to show that you are willing to provide misleading examples to spin Bayo 2's numbers into something less horrific than they actually are.

And frankly, I would personally add Tropical Freeze to your list... it is a game that barely sold 10% of what its predecessor sold, and has failed to even reach half the sales that the 3DS port of Tropical Freeze sold, so that is a pretty massive flop imo.

Your comment was entirely lacking in perspective. If you actually look at the numbers, it is nowhere near "one of the biggest flops in recent memory".

That's about as telling as the 666% increase in WiiU sales in Uk for MK, or the 3050% increase for Xbox 360 in Japan one time. Pointless.