To be fair if Nintendo hadn't helped the game would have never released and Bayonetta wouldn't have been a franchise to begin with. I wonder how much Nintendo payed though, i think this one will have cost them money in the end.

I didn't have to say "for a sequel to an established IP" because that is an essential fact that such claim could not be made without, and obviously anyone who is into chart analysis (aka everybody on this website) should take such things into consideration. The fact that you think it doesn't matter whether a game is an established IP or not tells me so much honestly.

I'm surprised you brought Gundam Breaker and Dragon Ball up... Both Gundam Breaker and Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z are available on PS3. They are multiplatform titles that, when you combine sales of both versions, do not look like flops anymore. I can't believe I even have to explain this to you, but you can't provide the sales of one version and use it as an example to your argument.

I think I'm done with this discussion. You are providing me with WRONG information to prove whatever point you are trying to make. I'm here for chart analysis not whatever this is. Moreover, I don't think you have any substantial argument to argue here as evident by your neglect of simple facts and presentation of false information. Have a nice day.

What false information? I provided links to the first week sales of all the games I talked about.

You seem to be jumping to the conclusion that I am arguing the sales are strong. I'm not. I simply take issue with your hyperbole when you say "one of the biggest flops in recent memory".

i m fed up with those who call it a flop or with those who make excuses!ok, it sold far better than w101, it proves that will have x3,4,5... lt in japan ,but first week of bayo isnt so good.As for those who call it a flop, wait for the western release,see if it also wont do well there, then call it a flop!calling it a flop now,is premature and using japan sales as an indication...for god's sake!

yeah, people should be happy that the game exixts, and stop to spin. there is a bunch of games that i loved and bombed.

So literal

However, despite my wording, the point still stands that there are indeed worse flops out there, and calling Bayo 2 the worst flop in recent memory is total hyperbole.

Posters in this thread, please stop abusing each other.

"Lifetime to date sales in Japan for the Wonderful 101 site at around 53,000 units in Japan"

Any source for that??????????????

>Relied on VGChartz numbers for this

>Famitsu has it at ~27k LtD, according to a certain Japan LtD tracking site.

Dont worry, its a game selling on word of mouth.

And it can sell for a few years more.