AZWification said:
Zelda U? Swan song? Yeah, sure! |
Yup! Just like Skyward Sword.
When will Wii U pass GameCube? | |||
| 2015 (we know its not this year) | 81 | 12.96% | |
| 2016 | 138 | 22.08% | |
| 2017 | 127 | 20.32% | |
| 2018 | 47 | 7.52% | |
| 2019 | 18 | 2.88% | |
| never | 214 | 34.24% | |
| Total: | 625 | ||
AZWification said:
Zelda U? Swan song? Yeah, sure! |
Yup! Just like Skyward Sword.
I Think next year will be its peak but it will be hard to reach those heights.
AZWification said:
Zelda U? Swan song? Yeah, sure! |
Yeah, I doubt this, too. You're saying that Zelda will be the swansong when Starfox won't be close to finished by that date?

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RubberWhistleHistle said:
well you and i both know that im not going to be digging up threads and such in the past, but i sure do remember a lot of "2014 will be the year of the 4" crap, people saying that its going to have uncharted 4, god of war 4, killzone 4, resistance 4 and other games that are going to be 4. and with mark cerny talking up short six month development cycles, i think a lot of people expected a little more games than what we have. oh yeah, and SECOND COMING OF THE PS2. glad that is out of everybody's system because its certainly no ps2. and what you said about it cant compete with ps4 on a technical level, thats assuming that being "next gen" has to do with having 8GB of ram or whatever other standard sony has set on how powerful your console has to be in order to be next gen. i dont know why anybody would use that as a standard, but whatever. they came out with a console at the same time sony and ms did, and theyre all competing for the same money. anyways, sales, at least in some part, do suggest that interest in wii u is raising. i mean, its base line nearly doubled since mk, and that raise in baseline is affecting sony's sales. i dont care what anybody says, the consoles are in a competition against eachother, and sales for one means there is a less chance of that person buying the other. so i do think there are a significant amount of people out there who chose to buy a wii u instead of a ps4 because of the games it had. and you know as well as i that it takes A LOT to turn around an image of a company. sony is still selling that many consoles because of the hype and the bad publicity of ms and nintendo at the start of this generation. it sure as hell isnt selling because of its library of games, its selling mainly because of pr reasons. look at gen 7 where, at the start, ms and nintendo had great publicity and sony was being made fun of all the time. it took almost the entire generation (about 2010) to fully change those perceptions, and now (2014) sony is king and people talk hella shit on x1 and wii u. think about it, the main reason the sales are the way they are is because of this great mismanagement of the wii u in the marketing department in the first year, the restrictive totalitarian policies ms was forcing on us with the x1, and sony capitalizing on that in combination with having a fantastic showing in feb2013. having a better game library is going to have a hard time competing with all of that. if nintendo keeps bringing games and fun experiences that are enticing to people, then the tides could turn eventually, but that doesnt mean sony is just going to sit back and make remasters all day long. sony will certainly fight back, its just that all this pr stuff has really shaped the sales how they are at this moment. i hope some of that made sense, im kind of high so forgive me if i just rambled and shit |
you brought it up, so the onus of proof is on you and if im being frank it seems you are either making some stuff up or are taking what VERY few people said and making something out of it to prove your point. show me this 2014 will be the year of 4. since its in quotes it cant be that hard to find. Sony hasnt even mentioned GOW so i dont see how anyone in their right mind could have thought it would release in 2014, Uncharted was well known to not be coming out this year. Sony is done with Resistance that has been known for a while and we already got KZ4
You're trying to bring up points that are irrlevant to what i was saying. It cant compete with PS4 or xone on a HARDWARE level, there is on spin to be done here that is straight scientific fact.
It doesnt really matter WHY its selling only that it is. At he end of the day the intereste in PS4 is still much higher than Wii U. And imho it will remain that way till MAYBE the holidays and then go back to favoring PS4 as it ahs been doing since it launched.
sc94597 said:
No motion controls haven't become the "defacto" way to play FPS because they were only a standard on one platform, and the successor ditched them. It is an objective fact that motion controls are more accurate than dual analog. It is my subjective opinion that this leads to a more enjoyable experience. |
the successor didnt ditch anything. the Wii U CODs still use motion control. The problem was and still is is taht there just werent that many FPSs on wii in the first place. and some of them were truly god awful (far cry). ANd thw WIi U doesnt really be looking to change that, if anything it will be worse, with just a bunch of CODs that people rarely buy for that system anway.
On a side note i like pointer controls for FPS if a game supports it i use it exclusively that goes for PS3 and Wii. But again it cant be standare when it isnt used that much.
sc94597 said:
Again I dispute that. Since this is not some objective measurement like graphical fidelity and performance. What if somebody values off-screen play without buying a tablet or PSV? Then they will find the Wii U version to be superior for their needs. I'm not sure if I said AC4 is best on Wii U, if I did not then your argument is a strawman. If I did however, then that was a mistake on my part. What do you mean by negated? This is an odd concept to me. Different people have different preferences. Maybe somebody isn't buying a multiplatform game day one and don't make their decision until the Wii U version is released? (this is very much likely.) Maybe somebody will wait if the features they like (such as off-screen play) are available? Maybe they didn't have consoles that can play the other versions of the game until recently, or they don't at all? Anyway, we can use the same arguments for PSO (GC) and Baluder's Gate (GC) - to name two games on the previous GC list. As for my shooter argument, the basic premise is that I wouldn't play the genre at all if it weren't for PC and Wii U controls. I can not stand dual analog for first or third person shooters. Having played shooters on PC first, I am spoiled by more precise controls. If I didn't have a PC, the only shooters I would play would be the ones released for the Wii U and which support wii motion controls (I don't have any current gen consoles by the way, except a 3DS.) A lot of other gamers feel this way. Controls for me at least, can make or break a game. I don't care if online is better if I don't like the way the game controls and how the companies have to accomodate for that (auto-targetting, for example.) ]
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yes it is all subjective...but lets be real. If the off tv play was such a big deal. the Multiplat games for WIi U woudl be doing much better and hell the system ITSELF would be doing much better. Considering both of these are struggles. Im going to conclude that the actual amount of people who really value this is so small is almost neglible.
Maybe somebody isn't buying a multiplatform game day one and don't make their decision until the Wii U version is released? (this is very much likely." No this is not likely at all. what is more likely is the person is simply buying it one of the other systems he/she migh have. I seriously doubt people are waiting for soem WIi U version when a good chunk of games dont even make it to the system and its not like they arent multiplat day to date of other versions anyway. If one is a fan of the game they want to buy they wouldnt wait.
They dont have another console? yeah i doubt that. Im positive they do which is again why we see such a large difference in sales multiplat games. Hell evne PS4 and One multiplat versions smoke the sales of the WIi U ones, unless its called Just Dance or Rayman htat was released months later
If it was going to outsell/match the GameCube, both Mario 3D World and Mario Kart 8 should've provided much larger boosts. The 3DS started to sell at a reasonably high level after Mario 3D Land and MK7, the Wii U is no where near as close to those levels.
It's still selling under the GameCube even for the equivalent months of June/July (2003 vs 2014), even though the GameCube had no notable releases during this time. That means the gap between the GameCube and Wii U has *grown* larger even despite MK8 and 3D World.
Doubling the baseline when your baseline was crap to begin with isn't really impressive.
Nintendo doesn't have many big franchises left. They have Smash Brothers, which also is going to have to compete with the 3DS version and basically they've spent their bigger gun IP.
A more cartoonish style Zelda is not going to move hardware.
| Soundwave said:
A more cartoonish style Zelda is not going to move hardware. |
Did you see internet reaction on revealing Zelda U!?
People are very hyped for this game, and Zelda WW HD pass 1m copies on Wii U.
Miyamotoo said:
Did you see internet reaction on revealing Zelda U!? People are very hyped for this game, and Zelda WW HD pass 1m copies on Wii U. |
Nah ... THIS is a reaction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE2Dc1sx71U
Even that, Nintendo probably couldn't even re-create that type of reaction today because people wanted basically Ocarina of Time 2 so badly, so that was like 6 years of pent up frustration/waiting coming out.
But the fact with Zelda is the two more realistic Zelda games with an older Link (OoT and TP) crush the other Zelda games in sales. It's not a coincidence, yes some people are excited about another cartoony/cell shaded Zelda, but there's a portion of the audience that it's never going to get because of the art style (not saying I agree with this attitude, but it definitely exists).
Wind Waker, Smash, and Hyrule Warriors will probably ensure a good chunk of the Zelda fanbase will be on the Wii U before Zelda U comes out too, thus limiting its sales boost potential anyway.