well you and i both know that im not going to be digging up threads and such in the past, but i sure do remember a lot of "2014 will be the year of the 4" crap, people saying that its going to have uncharted 4, god of war 4, killzone 4, resistance 4 and other games that are going to be 4. and with mark cerny talking up short six month development cycles, i think a lot of people expected a little more games than what we have. oh yeah, and SECOND COMING OF THE PS2. glad that is out of everybody's system because its certainly no ps2. 

and what you said about it cant compete with ps4 on a technical level, thats assuming that being "next gen" has to do with having 8GB of ram or whatever other standard sony has set on how powerful your console has to be in order to be next gen. i dont know why anybody would use that as a standard, but whatever. they came out with a console at the same time sony and ms did, and theyre all competing for the same money.

anyways, sales, at least in some part, do suggest that interest in wii u is raising. i mean, its base line nearly doubled since mk, and that raise in baseline is affecting sony's sales. i dont care what anybody says, the consoles are in a competition against eachother, and sales for one means there is a less chance of that person buying the other. so i do think there are a significant amount of people out there who chose to buy a wii u instead of a ps4 because of the games it had. and you know as well as i that it takes A LOT to turn around an image of a company. sony is still selling that many consoles because of the hype and the bad publicity of ms and nintendo at the start of this generation. it sure as hell isnt selling because of its library of games, its selling mainly because of pr reasons. look at gen 7 where, at the start, ms and nintendo had great publicity and sony was being made fun of all the time. it took almost the entire generation (about 2010) to fully change those perceptions, and now (2014) sony is king and people talk hella shit on x1 and wii u. think about it, the main reason the sales are the way they are is because of this great mismanagement of the wii u in the marketing department in the first year, the restrictive totalitarian policies ms was forcing on us with the x1, and sony capitalizing on that in combination with having a fantastic showing in feb2013. having a better game library is going to have a hard time competing with all of that. if nintendo keeps bringing games and fun experiences that are enticing to people, then the tides could turn eventually, but that doesnt mean sony is just going to sit back and make remasters all day long. sony will certainly fight back, its just that all this pr stuff has really shaped the sales how they are at this moment. i hope some of that made sense, im kind of high so forgive me if i just rambled and shit

Again I dispute that. Since this is not some objective measurement like graphical fidelity and performance. What if somebody values off-screen play without buying a tablet or PSV? Then they will find the Wii U version to be superior for their needs. 

I'm not sure if I said AC4 is best on Wii U, if I did not then your argument is a strawman. If I did however, then that was a mistake on my part.

What do you mean by negated? This is an odd concept to me. Different people have different preferences. Maybe somebody isn't buying a multiplatform game day one and don't make their decision until the Wii U version is released? (this is very much likely.) Maybe somebody will wait if the features they like (such as off-screen play) are available? Maybe they didn't have consoles that can play the other versions of the game until recently, or they don't at all? Anyway, we can use the same arguments for PSO (GC) and Baluder's Gate (GC) - to name two games on the previous GC list. As for my shooter argument, the basic premise is that I wouldn't play the genre at all if it weren't for PC and Wii U controls. I can not stand dual analog for first or third person shooters. Having played shooters on PC first, I am spoiled by more precise controls. If I didn't have a PC, the only shooters I would play would be the ones released for the Wii U and which support wii motion controls (I don't have any current gen consoles by the way, except a 3DS.) A lot of other gamers feel this way. Controls for me at least, can make or break a game. I don't care if online is better if I don't like the way the game controls and how the companies have to accomodate for that (auto-targetting, for example.) 

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No, I just have higher standards as a PC gamer who has experienced First Person Shooters with mouse + keyboard. It has nothing to do with the past. Dual-analog is the archaic method here that needs innovation. 

Yes, European, but Italian.

The gamecube version of resident evil 3 was released four years after the PSONE version, with no changes. The only game on my list with a comparable difference in release dates was Deus Ex (three years), and they added much more, making it better with new content.  

Let's compare the "late ports" on Wii U:

Darksiders II

August 2012 (Windoes, PS3, XB360) - November 2012 (Wii U - with the console) 

Mass Effect III 

March 2012 (Windows, PS3, XB360) - November 2012 (Wii U - with the console)

Need For Speed Most Wanted 

(November 2012 (...) - March 2013 (Wii U)

Injustice: Gods Among US

Released with other versions. 

Resident Evil Revelations

Released January 2012 (3DS) May 2013 (Wii U among others)

Resident Evil 2 

Released 1998 on PSOne, and GC Version (unmodified) was released in 2002 - full price.

Resident Evil 3

Released in 1999 on PSOne, and GC version (unmodified) was released in 2003 - full price. 

See the difference here? If your issue is cross-generation games, then that applies to all consoles this generation and is a sign of a different market, not of the WIi U specifically. 

Never.

The Wii U won't be selling in 2016. Zelda will be its swan song, not a system seller.

The only way I see myself eating those words if they somehow manage to tap into casual market in 2015 with a 199 price tag, Mario Kart and a ton of family orientated games which utilise the gamepad and wii mote.

End of 2015 it will sell 6m this year putting the lt sales at 11.5m then next year we'll see 12.5m sold putting the numbers at 24m by 2016.

Whereas the audience for Mario has risen since the wii, I don't think smash bros has a much bigger audience then it did before.

Come on, how many of us do you think don't play FPS on PC with mouse + keyboard?

Motion controls & dual analog has it's pros & cons, that's why motion controls haven't become the defacto way for most people to play FPS, and dual-analog has endured.

Couldn't have put it any better myself.