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When will Wii U pass GameCube?

2015 (we know its not this year) 81 12.96%
 
2016 138 22.08%
 
2017 127 20.32%
 
2018 47 7.52%
 
2019 18 2.88%
 
never 214 34.24%
 
Total:625
drake_tolu said:
toastboy44562 said:
drake_tolu said:
The real sales GC is:

2,25m 2001
7,08m 2002
13,4m 2003
17,58m 2004
20,32m 2005
21,33m 2006
21,52m 2007

I think that Wii U will pass GameCube by september 2015.

Well Wii U is

2.3 million 2012

5.4 million 2013

9.5 million 2014

Its tracking about 60% of the gamecube. The Wii U also has far less 3rd part support and doesnt have graphics that match up with the competition like the gamecube did. I expect Wii U to never outsell gamecube.

Wii U will only sell 17 million lifetime... thats being optomistic!

Wii U will sell 10,5 million by end of year, and will increase the sales next year.

"Octimist", no, you hope this number but even you know that will sell more. :3

10.5 million not 10,5 million. that is two numbers.

lol not a chance will it sell more. 10 million maximum.



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drake_tolu said:
toastboy44562 said:
drake_tolu said:
The real sales GC is:

2,25m 2001
7,08m 2002
13,4m 2003
17,58m 2004
20,32m 2005
21,33m 2006
21,52m 2007

I think that Wii U will pass GameCube by september 2015.

Well Wii U is

2.3 million 2012

5.4 million 2013

9.5 million 2014

Its tracking about 60% of the gamecube. The Wii U also has far less 3rd part support and doesnt have graphics that match up with the competition like the gamecube did. I expect Wii U to never outsell gamecube.

Wii U will only sell 17 million lifetime... thats being optomistic!

Wii U will sell 10,5 million by end of year, and will increase the sales next year.

"Octimist", no, you hope this number but even you know that will sell more. :3


toast ,let me repeat,gamecube had a big price cut in the same period:pdrake 11m;p



sc94597 said:
ICStats said:
Top 50+ 3rd party games on GC 2001~2003

Soulcalibur II 
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Resident Evil
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil 2 Direct port of original game (can include VC games in that case.) 
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis Direct port of original game (can include VC games in that case.) 
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X 62
The Simpsons Road Rage 67
The Simpsons: Hit & Run
SSX Tricky
SSX 3
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Plus
Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
Burnout
Burnout 2: Point of Impact
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Tony Hawk's Underground
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Crazy Taxi
Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO 67
Dead to Rights
James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Turok: Evolution 70
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex 62
Crash Nitro Kart 66
Beyond Good & Evil
Def Jam Vendetta
Rally Championship 63
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc
Red Faction II
The Sims
The Sims Bustin' Out
Sonic Heroes
True Crime: Streets of LA
V-Rally 3
Viewtiful Joe
XIII
Donkey Konga (Konami + Nintendo) Nintendo IP, I can include Bayonetta I & II, Hyrule Warriors, Wonderful 101, etc, etc if you include this. 
1080° Avalanche
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem Nintendo IP 
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
NBA Street
NBA Street Vol. 2
+ all the FIFA, MADDEN, NCAA, NHL, NBA

I thought we meant good third party games. In that case I could've added countless more for the Wii U. Look at the scores I added to your list, if we can list things that are under a score of 70, then I can add 15 more WIi U titles to the following list.

Rayman Legends

Skylanders Swap Force

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut

Shovel Knight

Need For Speed Most Wanted U PORT

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag

Mass Effect 3: Special Edition PORT (I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY EA LYING TO PEOPLE BY SAYING "SPECIAL EDITION")

Assassin's Creed III

NBA 2k13

Darksiders II PORT

Batman Arkham City

Trine 2: Director's Cut

Child of Light

Tekken Tag Tournament 2

LEGO Marvels Super Heroes

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Injustice: Gods Among Us PORT

Call of Duty Black Ops II

Skylanders Giants

Lego City Undercover

Resident Evil: Revelations PORT

Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes

ZombiiU

Ducktales: Remastered

Madden NFL 13 

Tom Clancy's Splintercell Blacklist

Scribblenaughts Unlimited

Just Dance 2014

Disney Infinity

The Lego Movie Video Game

All of these games have a Metacritic more than 70. You can also include:

Watchdogs LATE PORT. HELL THE GAME HASNT EVEN COME OUT YET AND CONSIDERING WE STILL DONT HAVE A SOLID DATE, IT MIGHT NOT COME AT ALL. WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THESE GAMES WILL SCORE EITHER.

Skylanders Trap Team

Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham

Just Dance 2015

 

Dragon Quest X (Crystal Chronicles was only released in Japan in 2003.)

Monster Hunter G (Crystal Chronicles was only released in Japan in 2003.) 


if you're going to negate teh RE ports why not do the same for the WIi U games that are also late ports. I only highlighted games that were late and didnt bring anything really different to WIi U version and no a map on the screen isnt really different.



ICStats said:
sc94597 said:
ICStats said:
Top 50+ 3rd party games on GC 2001~2003

Soulcalibur II 
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Resident Evil
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil 2 Direct port of original game (can include VC games in that case.) 
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis Direct port of original game (can include VC games in that case.) 
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X 62
The Simpsons Road Rage 67
The Simpsons: Hit & Run
SSX Tricky
SSX 3
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Plus
Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
Burnout
Burnout 2: Point of Impact
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Tony Hawk's Underground
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Crazy Taxi
Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO 67
Dead to Rights
James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Turok: Evolution 70
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex 62
Crash Nitro Kart 66
Beyond Good & Evil
Def Jam Vendetta
Rally Championship 63
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc
Red Faction II
The Sims
The Sims Bustin' Out
Sonic Heroes
True Crime: Streets of LA
V-Rally 3
Viewtiful Joe
XIII
Donkey Konga (Konami + Nintendo) Nintendo IP, I can include Bayonetta I & II, Hyrule Warriors, Wonderful 101, etc, etc if you include this. 
1080° Avalanche
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem Nintendo IP 
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
NBA Street
NBA Street Vol. 2
+ all the FIFA, MADDEN, NCAA, NHL, NBA

I thought we meant good third party games. In that case I could've added countless more for the Wii U. Look at the scores I added to your list, if we can list things that are under a score of 70, then I can add 15 more WIi U titles to the following list.

Rayman Legends

Skylanders Swap Force

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut

Shovel Knight

Need For Speed Most Wanted U

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag

Mass Effect 3: Special Edition

Assassin's Creed III

NBA 2k13

Darksiders II

Batman Arkham City

Trine 2: Director's Cut

Child of Light

Tekken Tag Tournament 2

LEGO Marvels Super Heroes

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Injustice: Gods Among Us

Call of Duty Black Ops II

Skylanders Giants

Lego City Undercover

Resident Evil: Revelations

Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes

ZombiiU

Ducktales: Remastered

Madden NFL 13 

Tom Clancy's Splintercell Blacklist

Scribblenaughts Unlimited

Just Dance 2014

Disney Infinity

The Lego Movie Video Game

All of these games have a Metacritic more than 70. You can also include:

Watchdogs

Skylanders Trap Team

Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham

Just Dance 2015

 

Dragon Quest X (Crystal Chronicles was only released in Japan in 2003.)

Monster Hunter G (Crystal Chronicles was only released in Japan in 2003.) 

In other words less than GC, thanks.

Shovel Night?  Duck Tales?  I didn't include all the games so that you could start including a bunch of indies and crap.  I think you can find over 10 games on that list of 50+ that are big AAA.


Hang on now. Ducktales isnt really indie or is it crap. I see what you are saying though. I cant speak on Shovel Night.



GC had better 3rd party support, you all should be honest with that. It also has legit versions of those games. Wiiu got some old gen ports, remember GC was comparable to its comp wiiu is closer to last gen then PS4/X1.

So GC not only had more 3rd party games it had the better ones and current to its gen, wiiu has inferior ones less of them and many are old gen. Already in its second year no one is even bothering. And it has no sports games GC had for the most part all of them.

Realistically wiiu will never pass it, hd means ninty then selves are mush slower with games the price is to high and will be higher and no 3rd party support in sight.



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Also just looking on Metacritic aggregates I feel Wii U remains in a weaker position than GC.

GC, US 2001-2003
21 games rated 90+
78 games rated 80+

Wii U, US 2012-2014, including eShop
4 games rated 90+
36 games rated 80+

Wii U, US 2012-2014, excluding eShop
3 games rated 90+
25 games rated 80+

Wii U will get a few more before the end of the year.  Indie/eShop or not matters, because they're lower budget and don't impact sales equally & Joe public doesn't see them as well as games on shelves.



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Despite Wii U getting an extra sale from me (I didn't buy a GCN), I'm starting to doubt it'll ever manage to outsell GCN. Unless they finally give us a big price cut, by like $70 and an impressive number of big games. It's really impossible for me to grasp why they aren't making a massive, Skyrim-scale Pokemon game in which the GamePad would act as your PokeDex. There is no way they ever make a game that uses the controller in a better way.



Wii U is a GCN 2 - I called it months before the release!

My Vita to-buy list: The Walking Dead, Persona 4 Golden, Need for Speed: Most Wanted, TearAway, Ys: Memories of Celceta, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, History: Legends of War, FIFA 13, Final Fantasy HD X, X-2, Worms Revolution Extreme, The Amazing Spiderman, Batman: Arkham Origins Blackgate - too many no-gaemz :/

My consoles: PS2 Slim, PS3 Slim 320 GB, PSV 32 GB, Wii, DSi.

toastboy44562 said:
drake_tolu said:
The real sales GC is:

2,25m 2001
7,08m 2002
13,4m 2003
17,58m 2004
20,32m 2005
21,33m 2006
21,52m 2007

I think that Wii U will pass GameCube by september 2015.

Well Wii U is

2.3 million 2012

5.4 million 2013

9.5 million 2014

Its tracking about 60% of the gamecube. The Wii U also has far less 3rd part support and doesnt have graphics that match up with the competition like the gamecube did. I expect Wii U to never outsell gamecube.

Wii U will only sell 17 million lifetime... thats being optomistic!

I doubt that's an optimistic result when I expect the Wii U to sell 16 million end-2015.

That's conservative if you think about the fact that I expect the Wii U to sell 11 million by end-2014.



 
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oniyide said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
probably in 2016. people are JUST starting to realize that the wii u is better than the other consoles.


yeah, no. pretty sure PS4 outsells it almost 2 to 1 most weeks


That has nothing to do with when it will pass gamecube



RubberWhistleHistle said:
oniyide said:
RubberWhistleHistle said:
probably in 2016. people are JUST starting to realize that the wii u is better than the other consoles.


yeah, no. pretty sure PS4 outsells it almost 2 to 1 most weeks


That has nothing to do with when it will pass gamecube


fair enough, but why even bring up the bolded. not that what you said was right in the first place