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When will Wii U pass GameCube?

2015 (we know its not this year) 81 12.96%
 
2016 138 22.08%
 
2017 127 20.32%
 
2018 47 7.52%
 
2019 18 2.88%
 
never 214 34.24%
 
Total:625
Ucell said:
sc94597 said:
 

Which Wii U multiplats are gimped because of the Wii U's hardware? If anything, the Wii U has experienced the best versions of multiplats for certain games, Need For Speed and Deus Ex are examples. 

Skies of Arcadia Legends (Dreamcast), and Viewtiful Joe (PS2) also weren't exclusives. But it's to the Wii U's advantage that it has gotten multiplats while still getting just as many exclusive, not its disadvantage. Other than the eight third party games I had listed, what were some notable third party games released for the Gamecube between 2001 and 2003? 

I really don't see, other than maybe the tablet, how Nintendo was/is trying to appeal to the mainstream demographic ("casuals".) 

 

Pretty sure that any multiplat also available on PS4 and X1 are comparatively much worse on the Wii U.

If somebody only owns a Wii U that is a non-issue to them, just like those who played RE4 on the PS2 didn't lose out by not playing the better version on the GC and the best version on the Wii. I can say the same thing about my PC versions of multiplatform games in regards to the PS4/XBO, as well. Having said that, there are ways in which the Wii U version can be better on a case by case basis - framerate, tablet controls/off-screen play, etc, etc. Graphics (for scaleable games) are only one aspect a game can be better. Personally I'd rather play shooters on the Wii U than the PS4/XBO (assuming I didn't have a PC) for Wiimote controls alone. 



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sc94597 said:

 Personally I'd rather play shooters on the Wii U than the PS4/XBO (assuming I didn't have a PC) for Wiimote controls alone. 

Maybe you and few people stuck in the past but most people I talk to don't like that.  Personally I hate playing this kind of game with Wiimote, and Nintendo isn't even pushing Wiimote play anymore.



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ICStats said:
sc94597 said:

 Personally I'd rather play shooters on the Wii U than the PS4/XBO (assuming I didn't have a PC) for Wiimote controls alone. 

Maybe you but not most people.  I hate playing this kind of game with Wiimote, and Nintendo isn't even pushing Wiimote play anymore.

For Nintendo fans there is a significant group who expressed their pleasure with the WIimote's IR function for shooting games. Even if NIntendo doesn't push it, FPS games for the WIi U still support the Wiimote. Dual Analog for shooting games is so archaic for PC games and Wii gamers alike. 



sc94597 said:
toastboy44562 said:

 The Wii U also has far less 3rd part support 

Than the Gamecube? Nope. They are comparable at the very least, and the Wii U has significantly more big third party games in its first three years than the Gamecube had. 

Examples?

I think Gamecube had a lot more AAAs than Wii U in the same time frame.



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ICStats said:
sc94597 said:
toastboy44562 said:

 The Wii U also has far less 3rd part support 

Than the Gamecube? Nope. They are comparable at the very least, and the Wii U has significantly more big third party games in its first three years than the Gamecube had. 

Examples?

I think Gamecube had a lot more AAAs than Wii U in the same time frame.

Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Call of Duty, Deus Ex, Watchdogs, Darksiders (not sure if AAA), Batman, Rayman, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter are all big series/titles that have come to the Wii U. 



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sc94597 said:

Examples?

I think Gamecube had a lot more AAAs than Wii U in the same time frame.

Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, Call of Duty, Deus Ex, Watchdogs, Darksiders (not sure if AAA), Batman, Rayman, Dragon Quest, Monster Hunter are all big series/titles that have come to the Wii U. 

DQ & MH are for Japan only for now.  Watchdogs isn't out yet.  ME/Deus/Darksiders Gen 7 ports but that's fine.

Take your pick from the top 50+ 3rd party games on GC 2001~2003.


Soulcalibur II
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Resident Evil
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X
The Simpsons Road Rage
The Simpsons: Hit & Run
SSX Tricky
SSX 3
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Plus
Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
Burnout
Burnout 2: Point of Impact
Need For Speed Underground
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Tony Hawk's Underground
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Crazy Taxi
Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO
Dead to Rights
James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Turok: Evolution
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex
Crash Nitro Kart
Beyond Good & Evil
Def Jam Vendetta
Rally Championship
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc
TimeSplitters 2
Eternal Darkness
Red Faction II
The Sims
The Sims Bustin' Out
Sonic Heroes
True Crime: Streets of LA
V-Rally 3
Viewtiful Joe
Smugglers Run
XIII
Donkey Konga (Konami + Nintendo)
1080° Avalanche
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
The Lord Of The Rings: Return Of The King
The Lord Of The Rings: Two Towers
NBA Street
NBA Street Vol. 2
+ all the FIFA, MADDEN, NCAA, NHL, NBA, MLB, PGA.



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ICStats said:
Top 50+ 3rd party games on GC 2001~2003

Soulcalibur II 
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Resident Evil
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil 2 Direct port of original game (can include VC games in that case.) 
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis Direct port of original game (can include VC games in that case.) 
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X 62
The Simpsons Road Rage 67
The Simpsons: Hit & Run
SSX Tricky
SSX 3
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Plus
Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
Burnout
Burnout 2: Point of Impact
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Tony Hawk's Underground
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Crazy Taxi
Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO 67
Dead to Rights
James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Turok: Evolution 70
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex 62
Crash Nitro Kart 66
Beyond Good & Evil
Def Jam Vendetta
Rally Championship 63
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc
Red Faction II
The Sims
The Sims Bustin' Out
Sonic Heroes
True Crime: Streets of LA
V-Rally 3
Viewtiful Joe
XIII
Donkey Konga (Konami + Nintendo) Nintendo IP, I can include Bayonetta I & II, Hyrule Warriors, Wonderful 101, etc, etc if you include this. 
1080° Avalanche
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem Nintendo IP 
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
NBA Street
NBA Street Vol. 2
+ all the FIFA, MADDEN, NCAA, NHL, NBA

I thought we meant good third party games. In that case I could've added countless more for the Wii U. Look at the scores I added to your list, if we can list things that are under a score of 70, then I can add 15 more WIi U titles to the following list.

Rayman Legends

Skylanders Swap Force

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut

Shovel Knight

Need For Speed Most Wanted U

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag

Mass Effect 3: Special Edition

Assassin's Creed III

NBA 2k13

Darksiders II

Batman Arkham City

Trine 2: Director's Cut

Child of Light

Tekken Tag Tournament 2

LEGO Marvels Super Heroes

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Injustice: Gods Among Us

Call of Duty Black Ops II

Skylanders Giants

Lego City Undercover

Resident Evil: Revelations

Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes

ZombiiU

Ducktales: Remastered

Madden NFL 13 

Tom Clancy's Splintercell Blacklist

Scribblenaughts Unlimited

Just Dance 2014

Disney Infinity

The Lego Movie Video Game

All of these games have a Metacritic more than 70. You can also include:

Watchdogs

Skylanders Trap Team

Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham

Just Dance 2015

 

Dragon Quest X (Crystal Chronicles was only released in Japan in 2003.)

Monster Hunter G (Crystal Chronicles was only released in Japan in 2003.) 



toastboy44562 said:
drake_tolu said:
The real sales GC is:

2,25m 2001
7,08m 2002
13,4m 2003
17,58m 2004
20,32m 2005
21,33m 2006
21,52m 2007

I think that Wii U will pass GameCube by september 2015.

Well Wii U is

2.3 million 2012

5.4 million 2013

9.5 million 2014

Its tracking about 60% of the gamecube. The Wii U also has far less 3rd part support and doesnt have graphics that match up with the competition like the gamecube did. I expect Wii U to never outsell gamecube.

Wii U will only sell 17 million lifetime... thats being optomistic!

Wii U will sell 10,5 million by end of year, and will increase the sales next year.

"Octimist", no, you hope this number but even you know that will sell more. :3



sc94597 said:
Ucell said:
sc94597 said:
 

Which Wii U multiplats are gimped because of the Wii U's hardware? If anything, the Wii U has experienced the best versions of multiplats for certain games, Need For Speed and Deus Ex are examples. 

Skies of Arcadia Legends (Dreamcast), and Viewtiful Joe (PS2) also weren't exclusives. But it's to the Wii U's advantage that it has gotten multiplats while still getting just as many exclusive, not its disadvantage. Other than the eight third party games I had listed, what were some notable third party games released for the Gamecube between 2001 and 2003? 

I really don't see, other than maybe the tablet, how Nintendo was/is trying to appeal to the mainstream demographic ("casuals".) 

 

Pretty sure that any multiplat also available on PS4 and X1 are comparatively much worse on the Wii U.

If somebody only owns a Wii U that is a non-issue to them, just like those who played RE4 on the PS2 didn't lose out by not playing the better version on the GC and the best version on the Wii. I can say the same thing about my PC versions of multiplatform games in regards to the PS4/XBO, as well. Having said that, there are ways in which the Wii U version can be better on a case by case basis - framerate, tablet controls/off-screen play, etc, etc. Graphics (for scaleable games) are only one aspect a game can be better. Personally I'd rather play shooters on the Wii U than the PS4/XBO (assuming I didn't have a PC) for Wiimote controls alone. 

what are these cases? cause as someone said if there is a PS4 x1 version its automatically not going to be the best version be default. You gonna really say AC4 was the best on WIi U? Lets be real about the tablet, 3rd parties hell even Ninty doesnt really use it in anyway. so that is mostly negated. You named about two games that we could argue about that are better on Wii U...TWO. thats not alot NFS and Deus Ex and even then its negated because they are late ports, in the case of the latter it was REALLY late. Youd rather play shooters on WIi U than PS4/X1? How is that possible when the system barely has any shooters, besides COD which even then the online isnt as good, it doesnt run as good and has missing stuff. Seriously doubt wiimote controls are gonna offset all of that. If you only have a Wii U it doesnt matter but on this site you would think it would.



sc94597 said:
ICStats said:
Top 50+ 3rd party games on GC 2001~2003

Soulcalibur II 
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles
Resident Evil
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil 2 Direct port of original game (can include VC games in that case.) 
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis Direct port of original game (can include VC games in that case.) 
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X 62
The Simpsons Road Rage 67
The Simpsons: Hit & Run
SSX Tricky
SSX 3
Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III: Rebel Strike
Phantasy Star Online Episode I & II Plus
Phantasy Star Online Episode III: C.A.R.D. Revolution
Burnout
Burnout 2: Point of Impact
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Tony Hawk's Underground
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell
Crazy Taxi
Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO 67
Dead to Rights
James Bond 007: Agent Under Fire
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Medal of Honor: Frontline
Turok: Evolution 70
Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance
Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex 62
Crash Nitro Kart 66
Beyond Good & Evil
Def Jam Vendetta
Rally Championship 63
Rayman 3: Hoodlum Havoc
Red Faction II
The Sims
The Sims Bustin' Out
Sonic Heroes
True Crime: Streets of LA
V-Rally 3
Viewtiful Joe
XIII
Donkey Konga (Konami + Nintendo) Nintendo IP, I can include Bayonetta I & II, Hyrule Warriors, Wonderful 101, etc, etc if you include this. 
1080° Avalanche
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem Nintendo IP 
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
NBA Street
NBA Street Vol. 2
+ all the FIFA, MADDEN, NCAA, NHL, NBA

I thought we meant good third party games. In that case I could've added countless more for the Wii U. Look at the scores I added to your list, if we can list things that are under a score of 70, then I can add 15 more WIi U titles to the following list.

Rayman Legends

Skylanders Swap Force

Deus Ex: Human Revolution - Director's Cut

Shovel Knight

Need For Speed Most Wanted U

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag

Mass Effect 3: Special Edition

Assassin's Creed III

NBA 2k13

Darksiders II

Batman Arkham City

Trine 2: Director's Cut

Child of Light

Tekken Tag Tournament 2

LEGO Marvels Super Heroes

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate

Injustice: Gods Among Us

Call of Duty Black Ops II

Skylanders Giants

Lego City Undercover

Resident Evil: Revelations

Lego Batman 2: DC Super Heroes

ZombiiU

Ducktales: Remastered

Madden NFL 13 

Tom Clancy's Splintercell Blacklist

Scribblenaughts Unlimited

Just Dance 2014

Disney Infinity

The Lego Movie Video Game

All of these games have a Metacritic more than 70. You can also include:

Watchdogs

Skylanders Trap Team

Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham

Just Dance 2015

 

Dragon Quest X (Crystal Chronicles was only released in Japan in 2003.)

Monster Hunter G (Crystal Chronicles was only released in Japan in 2003.) 

In other words less than GC, thanks.

Shovel Night?  Duck Tales?  I didn't include all the games so that you could start including a bunch of indies and crap.  I think you can find over 10 games on that list of 50+ that are big AAA.



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