So what about if that game is on PC instead.  What would be wrong with that?

Now I know doom threads have been done to death latily, but I really don't see that many people bringing this up:  Nintendo is about to face a massively uphill battle in the next 10 years due to a complete failure to lay any groundwork for the future:

Terrible Online:The evidence is everywhere!  I have seen about a dozen polls on VGchartz asking Sony/MS fans if they would buy a Wii U if it had no tablet and similar hardware.  The answer is always  arounf 80% no because simply put it isn't just the graphics.  Nintendo's network is 2 generations behind.  I don't think I have ever seen a game with more than 12 players on a Nintendo console and the PS2 even had 32 player games. Heck the PSP did!

Very Few Games to Play:In addition to this, they have completily alienated 3rd parties.  Generally speaking, Playstation has been the home of Ubisoft games and COD was better on Xbox.  However it is nearly fact at this point that 3rd party games are lazy ports on the Wii/Wii U, and Nintendo fans are lucky at this point if they even get any good third party games.  It can not be understated how terrible for nintendo it is that these games series are never coming to a Nintendo console: GTA, Bioshock, Battlefield, Far Cry, Dark Souls, MGS, Tomb Raider, Borderlands, Metro, Crysis and the list goes on and on.  

But if you own a Playstation or Xbox, you can sleep easily knowing that you will be able to play the next big game.  A couple Nintendo games released every year that we've seen a dozen times before does not make up for this.  (Whether you believe the games justify being called "Rehashes" or not is up to you).  But the very real and prevalent perception is there.

It's Already Too Late:  So how about Nintndo just fixes these things?  Well problem is that these things take time.  Time Nintendo doesn't have.  

-Microsoft's Asure and Sony's Gaikai cloud tech can not be set up overnight.  

-Third party relations have been spited too many times in a row by Nintendo for them to think second about going back; especially when Steam/MS/Sony are sitting right there with massive install bases.

-Already people think twice about switching brands in order to keep their Trophies/Achievements, DLC, and gaming group of friends.  Many people have grown up at this point with out ever using a Nintendo console more than their PC/PS2/360 etc.  The people raised on the NES no longer makes up the core market.  Nintendo has spent all of their loyalty points.

Or is it?!:  Could Nintendo come back?  Absolutily, I never say never!  But I feel the great majority of people are underscoring just how hard a comeback would be for Ninty.  In order to have the market presence they had in the good ol days of the NES (The Wii was clearly an outlier), they need to make a comeback greater than the PS3->PS4.  No wrong moves, all right ones.  

Please do not bring up the PS3 btw.  Sony was coming off of the BIGGEST market share domination of all time, and they still didn't come in first.  Meanwhile the Wii U is tracking below the Dreamcast.

Their only option: At this point I think they really only can follow this path if they want to succeed:

-Hold on for dear life in the short term, and prepare for the future.  Right now they have a good 2 years before they need to launch a new main console.  In that time it is imperitive that they form a network that beats PSN.  Prepare their next console.

-Launch a new conservative console in 2016.  It needs to be priced reasonably while also beating the PS4 in performance by at least a factor of 3  (In order to not be completily obsolete the following generation that will shortly follow), selling at a minor-medium loss should be acceptable.  The Network must be competitive with PSN while also being free.  They use the next 4 years to slowly claw back third party support and fans.  New mature IP's are a must!

-After getting an install base of 40-60m, they pull out their big guns.  In 2020 they launch a brand new console with the best online (Paid) and massive 3rd party support.  It would have the best party/family friendly games while also offering all of the hardcore gaming Nintendo's lost fans came to expect.  With it they could really have a chance of outselling the Wii.

P.S.  If you made it this far: Good job and thank you!  Please keep in mind that I am not saying Nintendo's current offerings aren't good enough for YOU, I am saying they aren't good enough for most people to make the Wii U their main console.

A multiplayer action-RPG with a low barrier of entry, an accessible turnbased RPG, various co-op games (shooters, racers etc.), these are just some examples of IPs that could work. They aren't really new ideas (NSMB Wii wasn't either), but if no company is making such games, then there is untapped demand. You just need to stop thinking within the known boundaries and stop assuming that Nintendo already did everything that was possible on the original Wii. Heck, you often complained that Nintendo didn't put out many games that used Motion Plus. Besides, the Wii was versatile, so motion controls weren't a requirement. The question can also be turned around to ask if you believe that Nintendo has covered every possible existing genre with their Wii portfolio. Did the Wii have everything you could have asked for?

As for Kinect, I don't understand your question. You'll have to elaborate.

To an extent too I think motion gaming as it exists today kind of hit a brick wall after people got over the initial "wow" factor of it.

It wasn't popular with many genres for starters, when divorced from simple to understand concepts that a beginner could easily equate to some kind of reality (like say bowling or tennis or dancing or jogging or steering a wheel), it's appeal became fairly limited. There's only so many party sports/dance/fitness games you can make before saturation hits and indeed the market became flooded with these types of games. There was no need for smartphones to "replace" Wii Sports ... Wii Sports as a "hot thing" cooled all on its own. 

Attempts to make more fantasy based, level-clearing/quest based motion games never took off with motion gaming really in any big way. Star Wars Kinect, Red Steel 2, Fable: The Journey, Sony's Sorcery (which actually was a pretty nice use of the motion controller), even Zelda: Skyward Sword ... none of these were exactly blockbuster hits. 

I think motion gaming's future really lies with virtual reality now, but as a standalone driver for software sales, it's lost a lot of its buzz. The first time you ride a bicycle, it's amazing. The 10,000th time you do it, you don't even think about it, people I think got their fill of waving their arms around in front of their TV after a couple of years of having their Wii/Kinect. 

That's *part* of the problem, though a bigger issue is that same audience now has a smartphone in their pocket all the time too, which satiates their gaming needs when ever they have a spare 15-20 minutes in an extremely user friendly setup. Apple/Android usurped Nintendo as the lead voice for casual gamers a long time ago really, Nintendo hasn't made a big hit worldwide casual IP since Wii Fit in 2008, which is now 6+ years old (an eternity in entertainment cycles).

Yes, there is voice chat in MK8, but they choose to exclude during games(races),  it's more of a game design decision than a limit of Nintendo's network infrastucture

Same for your "12player vs 32 players" comment. Nintendo choose 12players as their target number for MK (like Respawn w/Titanfall). And CoD for WiiU is above that with an 18 players limit. We'd probably see more if WiiU had more 3rd party support, EA's BF for example.

DLC and games are tied to accounts which are tied to hardware. In this area, you could say they are behind, but calling the whole network 2 gen behind is a big exaggeration.

Why is it when Nintendo " chooses" to limit something like voice chat or even online multiplayer altogether it s ok because it is a "choice", however if a 3rd party chooses not to include any aspect of an online part of a game then they are sorry lazy cons that have it out forNintendo?

Additionally, how do you or anyone know Nintendo s game style decision is truly what they say and not do to something else like they don t have the capability or perhaps they do but they don t want to spend the time or money or some other reason?