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vivster on 25 May 2014
forest-spirit said:
pokoko said:
This is why cherry-picking negative quotes to fill an agenda is dishonest and lame. It was silly the way people were attacking Digital Foundry when they had more good to say than bad.


That's what happens when you cut out a small part of an article and create a new topic around it while completely ignoring the rest of what was said. Context is lost and readers will be made to believe that that small part sums up the entire article. It's also worth mentioning that about 99% of forum-goers are of the belief that thread-creators are saints unable of spinning, taking things out of context or downright lying, and therefore checking the source(s) is considered a complete waste of effort.

It's an objective analysis. You don't need to read the whole thing to get to the points you're interested in. Reading the whole article will not change any of the posted facts. There simply is no further context to "this game is 720p and has no AA". It's a simple fact that is important to know for some people. No amount of additional fluff in the article will change it.

What do you want? Do you want "This game is 720p and has no AA but we're not bothered by it"? That's not an analysis anymore but an opinion piece. If you want someone's opinion chewed up for you because you can't make up your own, read reviews!



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hunter_alien on 25 May 2014

Well for a WiiU game it does look good. Colorful, highly detailed, full of great animations and all of these is kept in 4 player split-screen. Thats nothing to scoff at

I still don't know why they didn't add AA to it, but it was probably due to hardware limitations and it would have needed a couple of extra months for it to work properly. They need a heavy hitter before E3 to have something to boast about, and to push some hardware before the summer lull.



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AZWification on 25 May 2014
gladiator said:
The writer of the article also goes on to say on neogaf, it's impressive for a wiiu game.

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fps_d0minat0r on 25 May 2014
KoopaKid said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
ICStats said:
gladiator said:
The writer of the article also goes on to say on neogaf, it's impressive for a wiiu game.

Which is not a good thing.  Disclaimers like "For Wii U" or  "Compared to prior Mario Karts" don't sound good.

Do you like this?

"Tracks are alive and bursting with colour and animation backed by an overhauled lighting solution and a smattering of excellent texture-work." - For a Wii U game.

"Thankfully, the lacklustre image quality does little to spoil an otherwise magnificent visual package." - For a Wii U game.

"This is all enhanced by a convincing combination of real-time and pre-baked shadows that even take occluded edges into account. Complimenting this is a vast array of dynamic light sources, such as headlights, item boxes, and special effects, made possible by what we suspect is a shift to a deferred rendering solution. Even in four-player split-screen we see dynamic lighting play a large role in defining the visual design while simultaneously highlighting detail in the texture work. It's really quite a treat for the eyes." - For a Wii U game.

"The world is further enhanced by the same atmospheric glow we loved in Super Mario 3D World, lending an almost hyper-realistic look to the surroundings alongside smaller details including a more robust particle system and plenty of decal textures. You'll notice plumes of smoke encircling the tyres as you jam on the accelerator, dust and debris kicking up when you drive through dirt, and rising bubbles when submerged in water. Skid-marks and other decals also help give persistence to each lap around the track." - For a Wii U game.

"Mario Kart 8 is a beautiful game with just a few small flaws that blemish an otherwise faultless presentation." - For a Wii U game.

Exactly. Its not doing anything special.

typical nintendo fan stance. "its good for what it is".... yeah like everything is.

The artwork and gameplay is special no racer comes close to mario kart and its a nintendo game its special automaticly

Artwork and gameplay are a matter of opinion, neither of which concern DF.

"and its a nintendo game its special automaticly" .... yeah ok, if you say so.



UltimateUnknown on 25 May 2014

I literally saw MK8 4 player split screen being played on a massive 70-80 inch screen yesterday at the London comic con expo. I will say, the game looks absolutely beautiful, even more than what you see on Youtube.

You really have to see the game running live on a large HD screen with your own eyes to appreciate how much the color pops and the details in the textures, 1080p or not. I don't even have a Wii U, but the game visually speaking as of now does not look any less impressive than the PS4 games I've been playing.

It really is that good and a MASSIVE step up from Mario Kart Wii, as one would expect.



 

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bigtakilla on 25 May 2014

Dem textrs suc... Wait... What?.... Excellent texture work..... But I looked at pictures pulled from the internetz.....

Lol.



HylianSwordsman on 25 May 2014

Even with the negative comment, I got the impression of "for an otherwise gorgeous game to have such an odd flaw, we just can't help but mention it." I mean they're Digital Foundry. Analyzing the specs is all they do. I would consider it a waste if they didn't mention the 59fps thing. You read DF to find out about technical things you can't otherwise accurately measure, and to analyze exactly what efforts went into making the game look and perform well. The "otherwise faultless presentation" comment says it all. They think this is a gorgeous game, but the developers took some shortcuts (I guess to avoid delays?) that, as a technical analysis, it would be stupid not to point out.



Leadified on 25 May 2014
HylianSwordsman said:
Even with the negative comment, I got the impression of "for an otherwise gorgeous game to have such an odd flaw, we just can't help but mention it." I mean they're Digital Foundry. Analyzing the specs is all they do. I would consider it a waste if they didn't mention the 59fps thing. You read DF to find out about technical things you can't otherwise accurately measure, and to analyze exactly what efforts went into making the game look and perform well. The "otherwise faultless presentation" comment says it all. They think this is a gorgeous game, but the developers took some shortcuts (I guess to avoid delays?) that, as a technical analysis, it would be stupid not to point out.


This is why VGC needs a way to like posts.



Hedra42 on 25 May 2014
HylianSwordsman said:
Even with the negative comment, I got the impression of "for an otherwise gorgeous game to have such an odd flaw, we just can't help but mention it." I mean they're Digital Foundry. Analyzing the specs is all they do. I would consider it a waste if they didn't mention the 59fps thing. You read DF to find out about technical things you can't otherwise accurately measure, and to analyze exactly what efforts went into making the game look and perform well. The "otherwise faultless presentation" comment says it all. They think this is a gorgeous game, but the developers took some shortcuts (I guess to avoid delays?) that, as a technical analysis, it would be stupid not to point out.

This is the most sensible and objective reaction to the DF analysis I've seen to date. I am humbled.



bigtakilla on 25 May 2014
Hedra42 said:
HylianSwordsman said:
Even with the negative comment, I got the impression of "for an otherwise gorgeous game to have such an odd flaw, we just can't help but mention it." I mean they're Digital Foundry. Analyzing the specs is all they do. I would consider it a waste if they didn't mention the 59fps thing. You read DF to find out about technical things you can't otherwise accurately measure, and to analyze exactly what efforts went into making the game look and perform well. The "otherwise faultless presentation" comment says it all. They think this is a gorgeous game, but the developers took some shortcuts (I guess to avoid delays?) that, as a technical analysis, it would be stupid not to point out.

This is the most sensible and objective reaction to the DF analysis I've seen to date. I am humbled.


Now how long before his/her soul is crushed over the constant nitpicking of something? It happens to us all. You either leave here open minded, or stay long enough to see yourself rant over things you wouldn't have recently cared about.

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