while i get that p.e.o.p.l.e.a.r.e.d.i.f.f.e.r.e.n.t,... the average US household has 3.1 TVs.    ...and i'd be willing to bet the housholds able to purchase a $500 gaming machine are far more likely to have more than 1 tv than the households unable to afford xbone.

I just feel a mid-range laptop PC is a better investment for a entertainment media hub for the living room than the One. Unless you're a die-hard Microsoft fan, PC is the better choice for streaming content.

I think this has to do with the Xbox not producing the kind of money they want. So I feel like this is sort of a last attempt to have the Xbox bring in the kind of money that will impress investors. If they can make money from the TV shows, Xbox live, software, and advertising I'm sure they would be happy.

Yep I have an HTPC with XBMC and it's heads and tails better than anything the X1 can do. I don't even bother with cable TV (seeing a commercial makes me want to scratch my eyes out) anymore and I download everything to my media server.

I have 3 TVs.  The big one in the main living room, one in my bedroom and one small TV with a DVD player in the kids room.  Currently I have the PS3 in my bedroom and my 360 in the living room.  Reason is that my TV in my bedroom is 1080P while the living room one is 720/1080i.  Anyway, having the media features on the PS3 and 360 pretty much the same makes my household very happy.  When I am playing on the main TV, the kids can go to my bedroom and watch netflix.  Having both systems able to grab my media from my Win 7 PC is also great.  Probably one of the reasons I have not purchase the PS4 or X1 is that they are lacking in certain media features that have become common place in my household.

According to me? How so? All last gen, the "extra" features that added value to the PS3, Xbox fans apparently didn't want. They only cared about games. I didn't matter if "in reality, the PS3 is cheaper than the 360. To be equivalent, the 360 would cost $750" because you could get a 360 for $400 and be happy with it. Don't act like just a couple months ago at launch, these boards weren't lit up with people saying "when you factor in Kinect and the HDMI pass through, the XBone is actually cheaper than PS4". It may not be you specifically (and in all honesty, my post wasn't an attack or even really targeted at you), but Xbox fans here (and in other places) certainly have done this. And I would classify that as flip flopping, since you guys used to only care about games and extra features didn't matter.

And what other console, before the PS3, was as much a gaming device as a non-gaming device? Internet browsing, media server, its own music service, original content like Qore, etc. Do you think MS would have done this with the XBone had it not been successful with the PS3? Because it looks like it's precisely what they're doing: making a big deal out of all the extra, non-gaming features in order to justify the higher cost. "You'll get to do more than just play games with XBone". That's pretty much what the PS3 model was.

And like I said, I don't think it's a bad thing that MS is taking this approach. What I'm calling out is how Xbox fans are cool with it. MS is taking the same "Sony approach" to the XBone that Xbox fans used to denounce the PS3 not too long ago, but now that it's on their console, it's the best thing since the wheel.

Even if a household has more than one TV doesn't mean they want seperate ones for seperate things like you do.  What about a family that wants to keep the X1 in the living room, not their kids bedroom, so they can control how much it is used and so the whole family have constant access to it?  What about all the well off, or even those of average income, single people who live alone so only have one TV?  Just because they maybe in a minority doesn't mean there isn't a sizeable market to go after.  The whole point of having everything in a box is it's wide appeal.

Participants in the average marriage don't typically sit in different rooms doing totally different things all night long like you claim you and your wife do.

who you kidding, people need their own space especially in a relationship where you live together.  Majority of my show my girl does not like, and i care not for hers.  Two tvs is a gift from the freedom gods.

I completely agree with some of the things you said but you failed to realize when Sony first came out with the ps3[2006], Multimedia and streaming  was not as big as it is today. Even cell phones are now smart phones..Many people never realy cared so much for that stuff. As the everything changes over the years, it is very much looking that an All in one device is the way to go for many people. This is 2014, not 2006. Yes, ps4 is more powerful than x1. X1 intergrate the multimedia features better than Sony's ps4 [at least to me].   Could it be that people are making a big deal of the whole tv thing on x1 because it's Microsoft? would they have had the same backlash if it was sony? something to think about O_o