I don't get Microsoft's new Xbox tactic

[SweetTalia]

BMaker11 said:

SweetTalia said:

If the vision for XBone was to be just a games' machine and not a "TV box", you'd all say "I just wanted games anyway". & You realize they're following the model set by Sony, right? << that's according to you.

 Anyways, the bottom line is, there is nothing wrong with MS trying to take over the living room with its all in ONE console.  I have not flipflop my opinion. Most people bought the ps3 back them for the bluray..I thought the console  was very expensive at launch just like I think xbox one is expensive now. I am just not sure where this thread is going ..as far as I know both sony and microsoft is trying to take over your living room...MS is just trying to do it better than sony.

According to me? How so? All last gen, the "extra" features that added value to the PS3, Xbox fans apparently didn't want. They only cared about games. I didn't matter if "in reality, the PS3 is cheaper than the 360. To be equivalent, the 360 would cost $750" because you could get a 360 for $400 and be happy with it. Don't act like just a couple months ago at launch, these boards weren't lit up with people saying "when you factor in Kinect and the HDMI pass through, the XBone is actually cheaper than PS4". It may not be you specifically (and in all honesty, my post wasn't an attack or even really targeted at you), but Xbox fans here (and in other places) certainly have done this. And I would classify that as flip flopping, since you guys used to only care about games and extra features didn't matter.

And what other console, before the PS3, was as much a gaming device as a non-gaming device? Internet browsing, media server, its own music service, original content like Qore, etc. Do you think MS would have done this with the XBone had it not been successful with the PS3? Because it looks like it's precisely what they're doing: making a big deal out of all the extra, non-gaming features in order to justify the higher cost. "You'll get to do more than just play games with XBone". That's pretty much what the PS3 model was.

And like I said, I don't think it's a bad thing that MS is taking this approach. What I'm calling out is how Xbox fans are cool with it. MS is taking the same "Sony approach" to the XBone that Xbox fans used to denounce the PS3 not too long ago, but now that it's on their console, it's the best thing since the wheel.

I completely agree with some of the things you said but you failed to realize when Sony first came out with the ps3[2006], Multimedia and streaming  was not as big as it is today. Even cell phones are now smart phones..Many people never realy cared so much for that stuff. As the everything changes over the years, it is very much looking that an All in one device is the way to go for many people. This is 2014, not 2006. Yes, ps4 is more powerful than x1. X1 intergrate the multimedia features better than Sony's ps4 [at least to me].   Could it be that people are making a big deal of the whole tv thing on x1 because it's Microsoft? would they have had the same backlash if it was sony? something to think about O_o