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Lafiel said:
Mummelmann said:
Too great a risk for Sony right now, in my opinion. They are not in a position where they can afford for this to fail.

I doubt they will try to push this into mainstream, just putting out a (fairly expensive) Rift competitor with some PS4 support especially in 1st/2nd party games shouldn't be a big commitment money wise. Having a foot in the VR market might prove very vital once there is mainstream hardware that can actually provide high fidelity graphics at the needed resolution/fps for VR.


That's the thing though; if they want a shot at being relevant once it hits mainstream, they need to pioneer and be at the forefront and that entails a rather big risk somewhere down the line. I'm all for Sony helping push tech and they are among the most important proponents of format development and implementation but I'm afraid this could bite them in the rear through adding massive R&D costs and then ending up as a side-line aspect of their total business schedule that misses the mainstream angle when and if it ever hits that way, making it near impossible to recoup the losses.
I think their best bet is to keep it subdermal for now and then offer their tech and services to other companies with bigger assembly and production capacity and a less perilous current financial situation, as soon as the opportunity strikes.
Samsung made their fortune by providing other companies with tech and parts, synergy business divides the risk and opens possible venues for reciprocal trade and tech advantages, something they sorely need now more than ever; they are moving even farther away from being self-sufficient by selling off or downsizing entire divisions.



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walsufnir said:

No, of course not. This is just based off what I read about Oculus and all the effort put in this amazing project, especially the guys who work at the project and the experiences I heard about it. And we don't know how much Sony spend in this technology, although of course they are quite a big player.

pretty much what i was saying

fyi i cant wait to see these two projects announced and released. rumor has it also Valve is making one, correct? some pretty big players might enter the market and compete on this, it will be very cool and interesting



As if the PS4 was not ruling gaming bad enough.

Buying this for sure.  give it two options, one vr and one like their reg headset tv thing so i can use it for normal gaming.. on a 700 inch screen.

 

lolz people worried about costs and sony tech.

They still have world class tech, they just have a hard time with price and finding a market for sometimes severely niche products.  And sce is already profitable, they can afford the risk especially since its build upon tech and expertise sony has been screwing around with.  They been making those headset tv for years, they are easily the leader in it.  This will be nothing overly hard for them. 



kitler53 said:

sony's tech will be better ("OR killing") for the simple fact it's sony and not some hohum little startup with no confirmed developer support.   if sony puts 1 game on the thing it will already be better than OR.  seriously,.. sony, nintendo, and MS are the only three that could possibly pull this off.

 

"There’s also no pressure on developers from platform holder Sony to adopt the tech; indeed, the studios we spoke to were excited by the technology, but questioned its viability as a platform."

i'm glad they aren't pressuring developers.  that will foster good developer relationships.  i do hope sony gets this in the hands of indies as they are more likely to take the risk to develop something unique for it.  ..but i also question the viability of this.  sony NEEDS to bring their "wii sports" to the reveal.  if this doesn't get amazing press from day 1 it will flop.  sony needs positive word of mouth on their side,.. this will be impossible to advertise their way to customer acceptance.


@bolded: cough... Valve??

also, i agree, Sony need to impress the Media from day one, let them wear it and try it on, make them go WoW! or else sony are in for a tough ride, VR will be a VERY hard thing to market and the only way people can really see what it does and its effect is to try it on. So sony needs the press to say "its fucking awesome" so people could atleast get excited to try it. 



bananaking21 said:
walsufnir said:

No, of course not. This is just based off what I read about Oculus and all the effort put in this amazing project, especially the guys who work at the project and the experiences I heard about it. And we don't know how much Sony spend in this technology, although of course they are quite a big player.

pretty much what i was saying

fyi i cant wait to see these two projects announced and released. rumor has it also Valve is making one, correct? some pretty big players might enter the market and compete on this, it will be very cool and interesting


The best would of course be a really ongoing competition where all sides keep pushing themselves for an even better experience. I think especially VR will get a lot of new impulse over the next few years and I am glad I can watch this technology evolve. That said perhaps Sony manages to lure me to buy a PS4 if their tech is good enough and games like GT7 will support it in the right way.



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GT7 with Vr....

Somewhere in Japan Kaz just got tingly.



walsufnir said:
bananaking21 said:
walsufnir said:

No, of course not. This is just based off what I read about Oculus and all the effort put in this amazing project, especially the guys who work at the project and the experiences I heard about it. And we don't know how much Sony spend in this technology, although of course they are quite a big player.

pretty much what i was saying

fyi i cant wait to see these two projects announced and released. rumor has it also Valve is making one, correct? some pretty big players might enter the market and compete on this, it will be very cool and interesting


The best would of course be a really ongoing competition where all sides keep pushing themselves for an even better experience. I think especially VR will get a lot of new impulse over the next few years and I am glad I can watch this technology evolve. That said perhaps Sony manages to lure me to buy a PS4 if their tech is good enough and games like GT7 will support it in the right way.

you should buy a PS4 because it has no gamez. that way you have free time to do other stuff. so PS4 gives you time, and time is gold. PS4 gives you gold.

@bolded: i just thought of playing evolve in VR, would be sweet getting my head ripped by that gaint monster in VR

as for watching the industry grow, it sure will be interesting, specially if we have 3 major players which all push each other forward. i have a feeling this is just the start for VR. 



bananaking21 said:
kitler53 said:

sony's tech will be better ("OR killing") for the simple fact it's sony and not some hohum little startup with no confirmed developer support.   if sony puts 1 game on the thing it will already be better than OR.  seriously,.. sony, nintendo, and MS are the only three that could possibly pull this off.

 

"There’s also no pressure on developers from platform holder Sony to adopt the tech; indeed, the studios we spoke to were excited by the technology, but questioned its viability as a platform."

i'm glad they aren't pressuring developers.  that will foster good developer relationships.  i do hope sony gets this in the hands of indies as they are more likely to take the risk to develop something unique for it.  ..but i also question the viability of this.  sony NEEDS to bring their "wii sports" to the reveal.  if this doesn't get amazing press from day 1 it will flop.  sony needs positive word of mouth on their side,.. this will be impossible to advertise their way to customer acceptance.


@bolded: cough... Valve??

also, i agree, Sony need to impress the Media from day one, let them wear it and try it on, make them go WoW! or else sony are in for a tough ride, VR will be a VERY hard thing to market and the only way people can really see what it does and its effect is to try it on. So sony needs the press to say "its fucking awesome" so people could atleast get excited to try it. 

honest question,...  does valve make games anymore?



kitler53 said:
bananaking21 said:

@bolded: cough... Valve??

also, i agree, Sony need to impress the Media from day one, let them wear it and try it on, make them go WoW! or else sony are in for a tough ride, VR will be a VERY hard thing to market and the only way people can really see what it does and its effect is to try it on. So sony needs the press to say "its fucking awesome" so people could atleast get excited to try it. 

honest question,...  does valve make games anymore?

they are obviously in a huge transition period, so its normal if they arent speaking much about their projects at hand. 



walsufnir said:
bananaking21 said:
walsufnir said:
"Oculus Rift-beating VR headset" Doubtful...


because sony is not a technology company that spend millions and millions on R&D and do not have any previous experience with VR, none, nothing, nope.

They are, of course. But they can't do wonders within a certain price range. I followed a lot of twitter accounts around Oculus and there are very talented guys working on the tech behind Oculus with many smart techniques to make people not get headaches or make them puke, for example. Very, very complex math behind all this, leave aside the hardware which is needed for it.

I don't say Sony won't deliver a good VR experience although we have yet to see it. But I think that

a) the hardware of Oculus will be a lot better than Sony's solution just because of the price

b) the experience with Oculus will be a lot better because of the manpower and intelligence put into the project

b) is of course just a guess from me - we will see how it will turn out.

There is a lot more to Virtual Reality than just videogames. Its applications can also be used for Movies, television, medicine, military, and even aeronautics. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the amount of research Sony put into this or the brainpower behind it. But really I'm not looking for an Oculus Rift. If Sony can make something sleek and attractive and for a reasonable price, then it has a lot more potential to be successful than the Oculus Rift.