So what your saying is saturation has finally ocurred for the Wii brand?

Quite the contrary for anything besides their home consoles. :/ If you know what I mean.

Oh, sorry! I've read so many "fan boy responses" that I forget there are still people who are just sarcastic, my fault! :$

Can´t see how it´s not.They couldn´t make a clear case for the console ever since they first unveiled it at E3 2011.

Nah. Sony secretly ditched the Vita and gave it to Nintendo. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=179200&page=1

Yes, it is Nintendo fault.
Bad name, bad marketing and not enough good games on time.

Wii U will outsell the GC for sure.

You think its the consumers fault?

I wish they would just go all out at this point and experiment like fuck with they're games (they have little to lose). New IPs, fresh gameplay mechanics and USE THE GODDAMN WII U GAMEPAD. I've come up with some ideas that I would love to play using asymetrical couch coop against online rivals (2v2, 5v5 online etc) yet nobody wants to make the games I wanted from the system. They want word of mouth? Addictive online experiences are the best word of mouth you'll find.

It is completely Nintendo's fault. People aren't tired of a piece if hardware, they are tired of being served up the same bloody games year after year. Though perhaps a lot of the core gamer market (and by core I mean people for whom gaming is a preferred entertainment / leisure activity, not people who like playing certain types of games) are also not terribly impressed at the much weaker hardware from Nintendo 2 generations running, though this is not part of the problem of the N64 or GC.

Nintendo could come roaring back into contention if they: 1) produced some compelling new IP, which isn't motion control sports/party/fitness; and 2) had a console with same or better HW specs; and 3) repair relations with 3rd parties. I think a new console in 2016 with slightly superior specs than PS4 and launching at the same price as PS4's 2016 price (should be achievable if specs are similar to PS4) along with several great new IPs would be a real challenge for Sony and MS.

I still feel Nintendo's IP's are brilliant, Zelda, Mario etc. If Nintendo had released a properly designed console with competitive hardware so the console was widely supported by mulitformat games (good versions) plus had its own exclusive Nintendo games then the console would have sold well depending on price.

The wii u is poorly designed, over-priced, under-powered and has only a handful of mulitformat games most of which are inferior to ps3 and 360. It's not hard to see why most people aren't interested in it. Nintendo's games need to be the icing on the cake not the only reason to buy the console. Yes its Nintendo's fault because the wii u is appalling value on so many levels.

Ultimately the wii u won't sell until Nintendo have priced it really low. Nintendo have massively damaged their brand and profitability by releasing wii u and hopefully their next console will have some respect for consumers and not just try to shaft them with pathetic hardware at inflated prices.

Moderated,

-Mr Khan