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Will the Wii U outsell the GC?

Yes 212 54.22%
 
No 141 36.06%
 
See results 35 8.95%
 
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Danman27 on 01 March 2014
iceboy151 said:

I mean is it really? I just think Nintendo's consoles have became less wanted over the generation. They've sold less consoles each generation. 

(According to VGChartz)

NES - 61.91M                                 

SNES - 49.1M                                  

N64 - 32.93M           

GC - 21.74M                        

Wii - 100.95M (I think everyone has came up with the consensus that this sold mostly to the casuals)                          

Wii U - 5.78M ( Which I think it trending lower than the GC)

Honestly, I don't think advertising or more games will actually help the Wii U sell. People are just getting tired of Nintendo systems, and I don't think they can do anything about it.          

No matter how you put it, it's nintendo's fault. "Yeah, but the other consoles are just more appealing!" you say. Well maybe they should have worked harder. 

If people are getting tired of nintendo consoles, maybe they need to do something to revitalize their image. Maybe make good with third parties. Maybe try a new IP. Mario can still exist, but I think 4 mario games in a year is excessive. No matter what you say is the reason the wiiU is failing, it's still nintendo's fault, because they should have addressed those issues that were obviously there. 



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ICStats on 02 March 2014
etking said:

Nobody wants a heavy tablet that cannot even be used mobile and 5 year old, outdated hardware without any games, real online modes or 3rd party support, the Wii-U is a complete design failure and it is Nintendos fault.

But maybe the Wii U is replaced much sooner than everybody thinks by a new and more powerful version with real mobile game support. My interpretation of the recent 'Nintendo Fusion' rumors is that the fully backwards compatible system will be announced at this years E3.

FUSION DS

CPU: ARMv8-A Cortex-A53 GPU: Custom Adreno 420-based AMD GPU
COM MEMORY: 3 GB LPDDR3 (2 GB Games, 1 GB OS)
2 130 mm DVGA (960 x 640) Capacitive Touchscreen
Slide Out Design with Custom Swivel Tilt Hinge
Upper Screen made of Gorilla Glass, Comes with Magnetic Cover
Low End Vibration for Gameplay and App Alerts
2 Motorized Circle Pads for Haptic Feedback
Thumbprint Security Scanner with Pulse Sensing Feedback
2 1mp Stereoptic Cameras
Multi-Array Microphone
A, B, X, Y, D-Pad, L, R, 1, 2 Buttons
3 Axis Tuning Fork Gyroscope, 3 Axis Accelerometer, Magnetometer
NFC Reader
3G Chip with GPS Location
Bluetooth v4.0 BLE Command Node used to Interface with Bluetooth Devices such as Cell Phones, Tablets
16 Gigabytes of Internal Flash Storage (Possible Future Unit With 32 Gigabytes)
Nintendo 3DS Cart Slot
SDHC “Holographic Enhanced” Card Slot up to 128 Gigabyte Limit
Mini USB I/O
3300 mAh Li-Ion battery



Fusion Terminal

GPGPU: Custom Radeon HD RX 200 GPU CODENAME LADY (2816 shaders @ 960 MHz, 4.60 TFLOP/s, Fillrates: 60.6 Gpixel/s, 170 Gtexel/s)
CPU: IBM 64-Bit Custom POWER 8-Based IBM 8-Core Processor CODENAME JUMPMAN (2.2 GHz, Shared 6 MB L4 cache)
Co-CPU: IBM PowerPC 750-based 1.24 GHz Tri-Core Co-Processor CODENAME HAMMER
MEMORY: 4 Gigabytes of Unified DDR4 SDRAM CODENAMED KONG, 2 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600 MHz (12.8 GB/s) On Die CODENAMED BARREL
802.11 b/g/n Wireless
Bluetooth v4.0 BLE
2 USB 3.0
1 Coaxial Cable Input
1 CableCARD Slot
4 Custom Stream-Interface Nodes up to 4 Wii U GamePads
Versions with Disk Drive play Wii U Optical Disk (4 Layers Maximum), FUSION Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD) and Nintendo 3DS Card Slot
1 HDMI 2.0 1080p/4K Port
Dolby TrueHD 5.1 or 7.1 Surround Sound
Inductive Charging Surface for up to 4 FUSION DS or IC-Wii Remote Plus Controllers
Two versions: Disk Slot Version with 60 Gigs of Internal Flash Storage and Diskless Version with 300 Gigs of Internal Flash Storage


You're describing a $400 GPU today.  I would not expect that to be affordable in a console for at least 3 years.



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ICStats on 02 March 2014
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ctalkeb said:

Wii - 100.95M (I think everyone has came up with the consensus that this sold mostly to the casuals)

I believe the consensus is wrong, but that's for another discussion.                   

Wii U - 5.78M ( Which I think it trending lower than the GC)

Honestly, I don't think advertising or more games will actually help the Wii U sell. People are just getting tired of Nintendo systems, and I don't think they can do anything about it.

Nope. It always comes down to games, pricing, and marketing. The Wii U obviously just isn't a good value proposition for gamers. A far less
significant price advantage, weaker software support (few first-party games of note, an 8-month drought at the beginning of its life, and no
major third-party games that can't be bought on the PS3 or 360), and poor marketing are why the Wii U is struggling.

Nintendo has brought most of their problems on themselves. Little if anything of it is due to forces outside their control.

 

For what it's worth, I believe the Wii was largely bought by video game fans who also owned one other console, fans who felt burned when Nintendo's promises about the Wii never were delivered upon. This is probably also one of the Wii U's greatest problems - no one wants to be fooled twice.


No. The Wii was not purchased by people who owned other consoles largely. The third party sales definitely notes that they were mostly non-gamers children and womens games that sold the highest. Core third party sold terribly.

The Wii was bought by both.

Everybody had a Wii, at least every gamer I know.  Of course core 3rd party on Wii would not sell well to people who also had a PS3 or 360.  Pretty obvious they would not buy the low quality multiplat, or shovelware games on Wii.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger on 02 March 2014

They shouldn't have given the Wii U grass type. It was a good idea in theory but not in practice



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Mystro-Sama on 02 March 2014

They made it underpowered.
They resisted HD gaming.
They were unprepared to launch a console.
They refused to make games people want.
And over all they just do what ever the fuck they want and it's now biting them in the ass.

Short answer: Yes, it's their fault.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 02 March 2014

@Thread title question: Whose else?

About outselling GC: I think Wii U will do it, and it will eventually sell decently, just because Ninty would be damn retarded to not fix at least the most serious flaws in its strategy and marketing. A smaller gamepad allowing lower production costs and retail price and making happy those that find the current one awkward could help too, but IMVHO this is the only HW flaw (except for driving games, where it can be fine), all its other flaws are in marketing and strategy, so they can and must be fixed.



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Blinker on 04 March 2014

Yes, yes, it is.