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brendude13 on 18 January 2014
wick said:
brendude13 said:
ioi said:

Ok, I'm starting to realise now that you are just a blinded fanboy who won't listen to reason or see the point that is being made. We will revisit this in a couple of years time once things have started to play out...

Is it possible to ban the site admin?


I'm suprised there is even a report button on his posts. I dare not click it though haha.

Why not?



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AZWification on 18 January 2014
brendude13 said:
ioi said:

Ok, I'm starting to realise now that you are just a blinded fanboy who won't listen to reason or see the point that is being made. We will revisit this in a couple of years time once things have started to play out...

Is it possible to ban the site admin?

ioi got banned once last year if I am not mistaken for spamming. Funny I know.



                
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kirby007 on 19 January 2014
fps_d0minat0r said:
Sorry but I dont see how the argument 'its a marathon, not a sprint' favours anyone more than it does Sony.
MS and nintendo are not known for long-term support and sony have the most poweful hardware and most first party developers to make sure they do last the longest.

Unless that prediction where sony go bankrupt comes true, I cant see the wii U or xbox one being supported longer or selling more than the PS4.

Im also not convinced by the casual games explanation, those games will be on the PS4 as well and in most cases a better version.
MS simply cant afford to buy out the influential ones.

Then you have to consider what happens with dead rising and titanfall. what if they go through the whole mass effect thing again?

Excuse me? MS not known for long-term support? maybe for the first xbox, the 360 has been supported for 9 years.



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scoobydoobiemew on 19 January 2014

This has got Sonys name written all over it, the sales have beaten the PS2 launch numbers and the PS2 sold over 150m, so i think the Playstation 4 will have between 90m and 100m because this generation will be longer in my opinion, just because the leap is not as significant compared to the PS2 to PS3.



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Kasz216 on 24 January 2014
JoeTheBro said:
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What can the XBONE do that the PS4 can't? The big things at the moment are suspend/resume, snapping, and TV in. Are casuals going to really want to spend $40 more just for those features and Kinect tracking when the PS4 is better in every other way? Also suspend/resume is coming and snapping would be very possible to port to PS4. If you are correct about casuals really valuing those features, Sony can implement all of them very quickly except HDMI in.

Tv in could actually be a big deal for casuals.  I know my 70 year father likes the sound of just being able to talk to his tv instead of using a remote.  If microsoft can get the price down, I can easily see microsoft being able to market to that casual crowd.  I still think the ps4 will lead globally, but I think microsoft will retain majority here in the US.

If your father is just interested in talking to the tv, wouldn't he be far more likely to get the comcast x1 or another cable box that does that? The X1 is only $50-$100 if you already have cable. It doesn't sound like he's interested in gaming, so even at $400 Microsoft would have a really hard time selling to this crowd.

I mean... if he knows about it and his speciific cable operator has it.  (If he has cable).

I mean... I've never heard of it and i imagine i'm at least as well informed as your average old dude.

Why were Ipod's so successful even though there were cheaper and better MP3 players out there... and MP3 players out there way before the Ipod released? 

Successful marketing, marketing it to the casual segement who didn't even know mp3 players were a thing really.

 

Xbone really does have a small chance of being successful by playing up the interlinking/run everyting features of the Xbone...

but it hasn't really tried.

So the chance does seem small.

 

Plus there's always the chance casuals just don't show up to play in big numbers this gen.  It happened before with the Atari.  Instead of migratign to PC gaming it could end up being phone.  (Well and facebook)



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Gilgamesh on 25 January 2014

That's right guys the PS4 isn't even out in Japan yet, once they take over in the land of the rising sun then it'll be over. So in another month Sonydomination will ensue throughout the world.



JoeTheBro on 25 January 2014
Kasz216 said:
JoeTheBro said:

If your father is just interested in talking to the tv, wouldn't he be far more likely to get the comcast x1 or another cable box that does that? The X1 is only $50-$100 if you already have cable. It doesn't sound like he's interested in gaming, so even at $400 Microsoft would have a really hard time selling to this crowd.

I mean... if he knows about it and his speciific cable operator has it.  (If he has cable).

I mean... I've never heard of it and i imagine i'm at least as well informed as your average old dude.

Why were Ipod's so successful even though there were cheaper and better MP3 players out there... and MP3 players out there way before the Ipod released? 

Successful marketing, marketing it to the casual segement who didn't even know mp3 players were a thing really.

 

Xbone really does have a small chance of being successful by playing up the interlinking/run everyting features of the Xbone...

but it hasn't really tried.

So the chance does seem small.

 

Plus there's always the chance casuals just don't show up to play in big numbers this gen.  It happened before with the Atari.  Instead of migratign to PC gaming it could end up being phone.  (Well and facebook)


Yes marketing is huge. Right now I'm seeing tons of X1 commercials. It feels like they come up with a new one every week. Right now it's an Xfinity vs CenturyLink ad. Unless Microsoft kicks it in gear and advertises TV voice commands as a core feature instead of a bonus feature, they're losing this match.

 

I'd enjoy all those extra XBONE features, but they are just reasons to pick it up instead of a PS4. Not reasons to bring in a new market.



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