Yep... regarding MS unable to supply Xbone IFFFF there was any issue this serious it was sorted long ago or MS used a whole lot of cash to cover it with overpoduction (what I doubt for a "almost" out-of-shelf as is PS4)... So yep maybe at the time it could have turned true (small possibility), but after launch it is dumb to be certain it happened in such a large scale.

You do know how longe took MS to aknowledge the issue right? And that a lot of owners had to buy a second X360 because MS didn't assumed the fault?? And that they done it because of massive class-action lawsuit.

oh, no dude I was agreeing with you. I was just making fun of how you got jumped for, I dunno what to say....."preference"(??) to the 2.9x figure instead of absolutely accepting the "over 3.xx" figure. Statitistically, within margin of error, the figures are the same. But you got responded to multiple times making it seem like the XBone sold substantially less than what MS said. Unless you post about how great 3.xx million sold is, you're assumed to undersell the accomplishment.

Look to the post kowen made directly under your comment that I'm replying to. You said selling 3M was just fine. "Just fine? What do you mean? 3M is MASSIVE! Just because your number is bigger doesn't mean mine is shitty" is essentially the vibe I got from that one. Nobody even said 3M was bad, but you didn't say it's the greatest thing ever either, you jerk =/

Maybe its sold out at 51% of retailers. That's a majority.

Granted, its easy to find a X1. That should be expected given its $500. Its also a bigger success at $500 than people anticipated.

Basically what VGC has, GJ VGC.

Well the issue came up almost instantly and the system was covered by a 12 month manufactures warrenty at least here in Ireland, before that 1 year ran out Microsoft announced that they were extending the warrenty here by 2 years to cover RRoD failures. Like I said, been there, dont that.... twice. Never paid a penny.

Doubt it. Sony is selling in too many markets to be able to provide a figure accurate to the nearest hundred thousand. I think Sony will announce "over 5 million sold (meaning shipped)" whenever that happens, or if it's close to the end of the FY they'll just release their FY shipment number. Other than that I don't think Sony will release numbers. Which gives MS a bit of an open feild with being able to reasonably accurately track sell through because of it's smaller number of markets with better sales tracking (one assumes) in those markets and thus being able to regularly announce sell through milestones. Though the next sell through milestone is surely 5 million also, as it would start to get a bit tiresome putting out a press release for every million sold.

Good job with tracking VGC. "Over 3 million" could only mean 3,000,001 (doubtful of course) so with 2 days left of 2013 and VGC showing 2.88 million it's quite on the cards that VGC tracking will be very close to 3 million...but we'll never know the year Xb one crossed 3 million according to VGC unless future adjustments put it at 3 million for W/E 28 Dec.

Same with PS4 and 4 million, we'll never know for sure if PS4 crossed 4 million before 1 Jan 2014. Did it sell 100K between 29 and 31 Dec?

Deliciously confounding for both consoles, except for MS ruining the mystery for Xb one with its press release.

Let's not get all sentimental and start thinking these companies are so generous and kind. MS only did right by the consumer out of economic (and in some countries legal) necessity. If they hadn't given that 3 year cover Xbox 360 would probably have failed as a console and MS would be gone from the console business. The bean counters crunched the numbers and decided that a 3-year warrantee was the best cost-benefit response to the high failure rate if MS was determined to stay in the console race. The bean counters probably recommended that MS cut its losses and drop the Xbox business like a hot potato, but the powers that be in MS weren't going to have a bar of that. And aside from bloody FPS dominance it was good that MS didn't exit stage right.

How much of this announcement can we believe?  It's doesn't seem to be selling out in the US for around 3 weeks, and certainly not in Europe.