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farlaff said:

I still have to give you guys a serious review of my brand new WiiU (I'm somewhere in the middle of enjoying it a lot and, at the same time, thinking Nintendo jumped the gun a bit) but i've been too busy and am very tired right now.

Nonetheless I have just looked at the fresh chart in the first page and realised something I have not heard anyone saying around (and please forgive me if you have): they have just placed themselves right in the middle of the competition.

See, it is a bit more expensive than PS360, but it is newer and more powerful. AND it is not as powerful as the other 8th gen ones, but it is CHEAPER, has more games now, has solved many initial issues and is free to go.

It is an alternative (and a reasonably good one) to ANY of the other consoles. Ok, one might say NeoGeo was an alternative to SNes but bare with me a little: as a not so well informed customer, I get to a shop. The clerk shows me the options and by one side I have seven year old tech machines, even though cheaper, on the other I have brand new tech that is more expensive and comes with no games, AND, sitting right in between, the WiiU, which starts to show good value for money.

Sony and microsoft both have products that compete with the other ones from their own companies. The lack of support for Wii was a drag, but now it makes sense (for them, not me; I hated to be left with no options for so long).

Your sig makes me want to puke.

OT: It's hard to say whether this will be a good long time strategy. In terms of power/features it doesn't seem to warrant a purchase from most PS360 owners. In the long run it could pay off though, especially when the X1/PS4 lose some of their momentum and the Wii U's library gets better.



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DucksUnlimited said:

Your sig makes me want to puke.


Man, you have to  stop eating rotten food. I know it tastes a little bit better, but it's taking a toll on your health.



"I've Underestimated the Horse Power from Mario Kart 8, I'll Never Doubt the WiiU's Engine Again"

As has been said Nintendo just needs to work now on getting the games, that only they can make, out. Also marketing wouldn't hurt.

Push all the Nintendo fans into buying (MK8 and SSB should work well here), convince a solid chunk of families to dive in again (it doesn't need Wii-level appeal) and work hard at being a tantalizing second console choice for all those who start the generation with and XB1 or PS4.

It can still find its place but it needs Nintendo to be on their A-game from this point out.



Wii 2

7 million units by now.



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Anfebious said:
DucksUnlimited said:
 

Your sig makes me want to puke.


Man, you have to  stop eating rotten food. I know it tastes a little bit better, but it's taking a toll on your health.


LOL

@ Duck: why all the hate?



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What Wii U needs is an entry level model with a pad with a 4.5" or 5" screen (same resolution of the current one, obviously, for compatibility), this could solve many issue: costs, allowing Ninty to price it lower without losing money, packaging size and weight would be just a little bit smaller, but on large numbers it can save a lot of money anyway, pad size itself, making happy those that consider the current one too large, and finally the price of the pad itself would make it more affordable to buy a second one. The latter point can solve the issue of many parents fearing that asymmetrical gameplay could cause quarrels amongst their children about who is to play with the pad.



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Looking at the sales no one can argue that Nintendo got it wrong in terms of what they wanted the system to be.
It was never going to be easy for them. How do you follow the wii? Imagine the thought processes.

1) More of the same 2) Sit on the fence 3) Go totally different.
To be honest I am not even quite sure which option they took.

My main issues with the wii u. It doesn't come across as advance or modern. Copying files from main memory to an external HDD takes absolutely ages. They choose to use decade old USB 2.0 instead of adding at least one USB 3.0 port which makes the console seem cheap and outdated.
The build quality of the wii u is the worst of any Nintendo console. The gamepad creaks as I use it to play games and I am not even putting much pressure on it.

Graphics are fine as far as I am concerned.

All that aside it's about the games. Which I do enjoy.



Mummelmann said:
The Wii U's main problem is being in the middle, it's aimed at two markets, falling between two chairs and it's squeezed between two generations of consoles.
The entire Wii U strategy was an incredibly poor one, they clearly didn't think things through at all this time around.

it belongs to one generation only and is aimed at the market nintendo always aimed: everyone, but with a focus on true hardcore gamers.



The biggest issue is the very low number of first party games. They had tons on the Wii, and also had MANY big titles out. By the end of year 1 on the Wii, there were 15 first party games, Wii U has 2D Mario, sub-version of 3D Mario, Pikmin, and Nintendoland, and apparently some Wario game that wasn't even released in my country.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

It could have worked but Nintendo failed the Wii U in many ways.

Nintendo simply did not do enough in the first year to catch anyone's attention. In my opinion, they had two options: go hard with big titles before the PS4/XO launched and build up an installed base, or go with an insanely strong line-up of games over the holidays to entice consumers while the other systems are dealing with supply problems. Nintendo, however, virtually ceded 2013 to Sony and Microsoft.

Right now, the Wii U has no variety. It offers no big titles unless you're a platforming junkie. They've allowed the perception that the Wii U is a niche machine to build. If your favorite genre isn't platforming, where are you going to look this holiday season? Probably not at the Wii U.