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fps_d0minat0r on 02 December 2013
farlaff said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
farlaff said:

^ @ both of you: the fact you are not interested anymore is ok and everyone should respect that. But don't say that people that do enjoy many things that date for years back have not grown up. I myself love swimming as much as I did when I was five, but that did not prevent me from getting a Masters degree and to be on the way I am to finish a PhD.


I never said that.

Just to be clear, I also like some things from my childhood, just the not type of games I used to play.

I still eat coco pops or nesquick cerial every now and then =)

 

I have taken this from the first post you wrote:

 

fps_d0minat0r said:


Maybe thats the problem. Nintendo are hoping just because people grew up with their games they will keep buying them for the rest of their lives.

There are some people that carry on doing what they used to do when they were 8 years old, but most people change.

 

I don't want to be a pain in the arse and you seem to be a nice folk. Sorry, then, if I insist on my point, but can you see how your argument has turned against you? If you yourself keep on doing things that you used to like growing old (as you have just admitted to do), then you are automatically excluded from the group of the "most people" you have affirmed that change. Thus, you have not grown up, just like everyone of us who llike Nintendo.

Generalization is a dangerous thing and can even be offensive.


exactly..I said most people change which they do, I never said every person changes every single thing about their entire life.

And the opposite of that certainly isnt 'people never grow up', they just retain selective hobbies while others change either with changes in society (e.g. glorification of violence), law (e.g. hunting), technology (e.g. simulation becoming mainstream), or any other factors.

I agree with you in saying generalisation is dangerous and thats why im debating this especially after you said your sig was from an investors report. with that mindset, how are they going to successfully cater to the millions of people who grew up without Nintendo? and what about all those who played nintendo games growing up but are not interested in them anymore?

in the OP you mentioned it could compete with the ps360, but the truth is they are not substitute products. The segments they appeal to are completely different. If someone wants to play mario, theyre not getting a ps360. If someone wants to play gear of war or god of war, theyre not getting a wii U. and just because they grew up with games like mario, it doesnt necessarily mean they still want to.



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Rogerioandrade on 02 December 2013
gigaSheik said:
Too bad you forgot to mention longevity. Right now it seems very safe to say WiiU wont last 3/4 years. The 8th gen machines are just starting what can be a life as long as 7 or 8 years. You may end up with a cheaper and dead system.

It all depends of how long Nintendo will keep bringing new games to it. The device may last 3 or 5 years.

Seriously, they are not aiming at big buckets of profits with the WiiU, it´s just about surviving this generation. If the WiiU sells like the GC, it will be just fine.

Specially in these times when the market continues to shrink, despite big launches of PS4 and XboxOne. 2014 will be an interesting year for consoles. So far, consoles are becoming more and more niche. I wonder what could be done by any of the 3 companies to bring new consumers to it, now that everyone´s just interested in tablets and smartphones and Pc´s 



Rogerioandrade on 02 December 2013
Mr Khan said:
fps_d0minat0r said:
farlaff said:

@ fps_d0minat0r: who ever said people cannot get new experiences? I probably played the first Doom before many others even heard of it, just to give an example. What I meant is, you CAN play Nintendo's games without being forbidden to play other things. But with all due respect the argument that their games are only good out of nostalgia is totally wrong. Otherwise all the Sonics over the last years would be major hits amongst critics. Also, look at the latest installments in the Final Fantasy series to understand what I mean.

I know but why would I play nintendo games if im not intereted in them anymore?when I was a kid I also liked microscooters, but that doesnt mean I still use one even though it wont forbid me to use a car.when I was a kid I also liked yoyos but that doesnt mean id play with one now even if it doesnt forbid me to play cards.I wouldnt bother watching animated movies even though they dont forbid me from watching movies with realistic CGIa lot of things are only good because of nostalgia and it probably includes a lot of the things I play now. maybe in 10 years time I wont enjoy shooters like I do today. maybe in 20 years time I wont enjoy simulators and maybe in 30 years time I wont enjoy gaming at all. At that time I 'COULD' still play games but why would I if im not interested anymore?

Do i need to bust out the old CS Lewis quote?


Do it. Most gamers don´t know it, and many who know it don´t understand it.



farlaff on 03 December 2013
Shadow1980 said:
Rogerioandrade said:
Mr Khan said:

Do i need to bust out the old CS Lewis quote?


Do it. Most gamers don´t know it, and many who know it don´t understand it.


Allow me:

"Critics who treat adult as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."


Encore!



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