The discussion is about that is graphically possible, and this room is possible to render. You have free camera, you enter this room multiple times, sometimes it contains multiple enemies. After that room you have the Hall, that is even bigger, with three levels of galleries and stairs, you can look with the free camera through the whole room. No frame drops on this sequences. So if you concentrate on what is graphically possible, you only see the dark rooms with not much in it? Very unbiased, I see.

I see you reference to PC. A good equipped PC beats every console, even home console. Nobody doubts that. So what's your problem?

You moving the goalposts. You were saying:

"because of the fact that nintendo made 3D a mandatory implimentation to the system that isn't even twice as powerful as the PSP was"

I was referring to the part, that Nintendo made 3D mandatory, that is clearly not the case. Devs choose to use that feature mostly. Now you also speak about 'mostly': "almost every game uses the 3D effect to diminish it's power"

So you basically admit that you was wrong and I was right without really saying it to leave the impression you were rigth all along. No, you made stuff up.

Fine then go and believe your own grandeur of delusions, its not like I could care. Your issue of much better graphics than what the psp's best could achieve is also not without technical hurdles on the 3DS's best looking games. BTW madden and ridge racer already pushed the 3DS to it's limit at LAUNCH so too bad about it having any more power left. The reason why kaizer exhibits poor understanding has to do wth the fact that he belives the megaherts myth and while also psoting up incorrect info about the 3DS's GPU clock which was 133mhz and what more is that the gamecube has more shaders and a higher clock too.

Once again do spam this thread with crappy hit and and run posts. 

@underlined. Do you have any kind of source for that and, since when is a console pushed to its limits at launch without some heavy investment with the hardware (e.g. factor 5)?

@Kaizar. See, you could have said that instead.

That still doesn't make me wrong that almost every developer will impliment it and BTW snake eater 3D was runing at a choopy 20fps compared to the more smoother 30fps of the PS2 version. It won't matter whether it was "mostly" or "mandatory" since every AAA developer has being using it so you can forget about trying to use the arguement against me. 

Just so you know those were the more technically impressive game and I've yet to see alot of the other games that tops them in the same conditions such as half decent textures for a portable with above average draw distances.

Wow. That's it? Just your opinion, no sources, no interviews, no dev time, no nothing!

Don't wonder why people are confused. It may be more technically impressive for you, while for others it may be Kid Icarus's draw distance. But without some kind of study or proper source, people will end up going with the consensus that a console is almost never maxed out straight out of launch (it's unheard of except for Rogue Leader and even then), and that the 3DS is more powerful than the PSP.

So consensus = 3DS not maxed out yet, 3DS >> PSP.

That's cause the game is mostly in dark rooms and thus it would be more representitive to use a darker room rather than a lit up room to show some consistency.

Like I had already said the 3Ds was more powerful but I won't go around trying to 1-up it's graphics situation since it's really not that impressive. BTW alot of the 3DS games post launch was not able to achieve any sort of of notable boost in graphics without sacrificing something. Revelations had to downgrade draw distance in order to achieve detail and while it may look good it failed to excel in every part of the technical aspects.