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I continue to read this thread though I've long since decided to stop posting on the issue. I'll just say this and I'll leave it alone. Martin and Zimmerman both have some dark moments in their past. There are some inconsistencies in Zimmerman's account. The prosecution failed to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt.



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I have to go to work. But so far almost everyone I have come across who sides with trayvon says he was stalked and a boy which both claims are factually incorrect and I can't take these people serious at that point. Also, when it comes to them meeting face to face they either claim no one knows what happened at that point or for some reason Zimmerman was the aggressor... which no evidence suggests that. In fact, the evidence suggests that Trayvon was the aggressor. And no one knows what happened? Well yeah, his name is Zimmerman. Why should we take his word for it? We shouldn't. We should do what the defenses ME did and look at his statement and see if the evidence verifies it. And it does. He was telling the truth about following someone. About shooting someone. About calling out for help. About getting attacked. About losing someone. But we should assume he wasn't telling the truth about the start of the conflict? Doesn't make sense.

I fully believe Trayvon was the aggressor. He had bruising under his knuckles and Zimmerman had injuries. The only part I don't believe about Zimmermans story is when he said trayvon said you are going to die tonight. Take that out and I still believe Zimmerman should have shot Trayvon.



Max King of the Wild said:
teigaga said:
Egann said:
Zimmerman in a nutshell: you can't prosecute people for making stupid decisions because stupidity 'ain't illegal.

If those stupid decsions result in a death, is that not manslaughter?

Only if you think its reasonable that a death could occur with those desicions. Getting out of the car is not illegal and is not lethal in any way. Why would Zimmerman expect he would need to defend himself if he got out of the car? So you are telling me that if Zimmerman actually lived in one of the houses that trayvon was by when he got shot Zimmerman should have stayed in the car because trayvon could have approced him when he pulled into his own drive way?

 No, but persuing someone in car and then again on foot, in the midst of night is bound arouse serious suspicion and fear ones life. Zimmerman instigated the confrontation which he was unable to manage. I guess the case for the court was who turnt the confrontation from verbal to physical. And with no real witnesses, this is where the case against Zimmerman fails...



Miguel_Zorro said:

The most amazing thing about this is that most of the people posting here fall into one of two camps - those defending Zimmerman and putting all of the blame on Trayvon Martin, and those putting all of the blame on Zimmerman.

I'm puzzled that anyone can come across as 100% sure of either position when so much of the evidence is unclear or nonexistent. There's an unbelievable amount of cognitive dissonance on both sides.

Zimmerman's injuries to the face (broken nose, bruises, lacerations, marks on the back of his head from the sidewalk), the only eyewitness to the actual fight saying Trayvon was on top and beating Zimmerman 'ground and pound, MMA style, no injuries to Trayvon except the bullet wound and bruising to the knuckles consistent with beating somebody, no evidence of Zimmerman having landed a single blow, all consistent with Trayvon being the agressor. What happened right before the incident is not certain, but who was beating whom into the concrete, and who landed not only the first, but the only punches is very certain.



This is good news... I was so happy when I heard about this... especially since I was thinking Zimmerman was going to get railroaded and used as an example...



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Just because somebody is following you doesn't give you the right to jump on them and beat them senseless. We can say all say that if Zimmerman had stayed in the car this wouldn't have happened, and while that may be true, that goes both ways, if Trayvon had not committed aggravated assault (the only actual, provable crime that evening), we also would not be having this discussion. Both made a mistake, but by the laws on the books, this should not have been brought to court at all.



TheBlackNaruto said:
thranx said:
TheBlackNaruto said:
 

But what made him follow this ONE boy out of all people? Why did he get out of the car? What made him confront this boy? And he is only 17 that is still a kid no matter how you try to spin it. A CHILD lost his life because a man ASSUMED he looked suspicious, followed him in his car, got out of his car, CONFRONTED the boy(seeing as he was the one following him then he had to of confronted him first) then they SUPPOSEDLY got into a fight(even though that is hear say as well) the boy was winning and then got shot.

I Agree the justice system worked because the prosecution did a HORRIBLE job and the defense did a muich better job, it is sad because if this man had not followed and confronted this boy he would still be alive today. The case in general though should not have went to the media like it did. And Zimmerman getting charged with NOTHING is just crazy. But that is the way the system works I guess.


If you simply follow the case, the answers are there. he followed this boy because he did not know he lived in the apartments. Trayvon was staying with family, and did not usually live at the house he was at. So it was suspicous to see a stranger walking around. He didn't confront the boy, as far as we know. a 17 year old is not a child, sorry. A teenager, or a young adult, or an adult, but not a child. I know you CAPITOLIZED CONFRONT, but there is simply no evidence that he confronted Trayvon. Its not that the prosecution did a horrible job, they worked with the evidence they had. Have you watched the case or kept up to date on it at all before this thread? You can't just assume that he confronted him, there is just no evidence of that, especially when on the 911 call, he loses Trayvon.

You are correct 17 is a young adult but in the eyes of a parent still a child but I still say though you are correct. I indeed followed the case which is why is said the prosecution indeed did a HORRIBLE job. I see strangers walking around all the time and I am sure he has as well. But still what made him follow this ONE particular boy(well young adult)? And if he did not confront Trayvon then how did they start fighting(well supposedly fighting)? I mean Trayvon was not following him? There are just a LOT of wholein this story if you ask me.

But again the justice system worked just not in the way most people felt it should have. It is a sad case....butone that happens every day sadly.


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look at the video here, he does a walk through with the police, whether you believe the story is another thing.



 

 



I just had a thought. I live in a mostly black middle-class neighborhood ('mostly black' because my family is white, we're the only white family in this small neighborhood). If I saw a young white male walking through people's front yards, I would be suspicious. Not because I'm racist against my own race (obviously), but because he'd look out of place. I saw a seedy looking white guy I didn't recognize walking through the neighborhood a few weeks ago and jokingly told my wife 'Are we about to get robbed?'. We sat in the car and watched in the rearview mirror to see him leave the neighborhood. Suspicion is more an issue of what looks out of place in my opinion.



My last thought on this is, no matter what, it's a terrible tragedy that Trayvon died. There's no vast conspiracy against the black population here, there was just no legitimate case against Zimmerman to rule out reasonable doubt. No matter what your personal opinion, the lives of Trayvon's family have been changed forever, as has the life of George and his family. I have no doubt that Zimmerman will not feel safe walking the streets for quite some time, that he will deal with feelings of guilt over this for the rest of his life, and that Trayvon's family is going through terrible, unthinkable grief. There are no winners in this, it's a tragedy plain and simple. It's time for the nation to move past finger-pointing and blame and move towards healing. We should all treat each other with dignity and respect, regardless of skin color or nationality.