As I said few times, they are incencitive to me and all the people wanting an Xbox One...
If you are basically looking for "differences" between the 2 consoles (which is not the same thing); they are plenty... And discarding the cloud computing just because it requires Internet, or Kinect 2 because you do not like it or the HDMI In because you do not see this as a plus is just your personnal preferences... But at the end; there are still exclusive features.

Same for the good list exclusive games.

I was really looking forard to the xbox one and its uniqness. now it just a 360 but more powerful. it may be incentive for you, but for more power i have my pc. I go to consoles for what my pc cant offer, and this gen there isnt anything. I can keep with my pc and 360 and get all the same things (minus exclusive games) my comment about the cloud is more of a joke since everyone was up in arms about the check in. unforunatly the cluod can be used on pc as well. so its not an incentive to get the xbox one. It is the one feature that interst me. but MS dropped the ball here. they had a great all in one machine i could have 2 of in my house. now i dont need any. HMDI in is the only new feature, my pc can do that too. again kinect is just a more powerful version, i have kinect already. I wanted something new and something that couldn't be gotten elseware.

I've got to admit I have 0 interest in the x1 over the PS4. I'm in the UK though so it might be the price and that I am already a PSN+ subscriber. I'll get free games with PSN+ so that is fine, (looking forward to drive club) and the console is only £350. With the X1 I'd have to buy the console (£430 wtf were they thinking?) + gold sub + a couple of games and it would be about £550 or more.

I'm still banking on a Kinect'less version two years down the line for £300 though.

Both consoles look good though, I honestly think it's Microsofts's insane attachment to Kinect that is holding them back.

£430 in the UK omg I just re-read that to myself I really dislike Kinect.

Well in your case; yes I do not see any incencitive to get an Xbox One/PS4. I agree.
But the incencitive I have listed are still valid for me :)

I don't really think the Xbox 1 has weaker third party support. It seems to be even with PS4 and has some goodies that PS4 doesn't have or won't have for a while (Titanfall, anyone?). Still, I agree that it offers very little aside from a Kinect for the 100 dollar difference.

Even so, I think Live will try to make good on its some of its promises (cloud computing, Kinect's integration into the living room) and may try to bring DRM to the masses via incentive rather than stuffing it down the consumer's throats. I get that a lot of the promises and innovation the console promised with the always on console might not come to fruition yet, but I applaud Microsoft for listening to the consumers and letting us decide if we're ready for it. It looks like we're not.

Despite the higher price tag, the backpedal on DRM and mandatory connectivity will only help Microsoft in sales, and I see that as a good thing. It still offers the most robust console online service and has Halo, so I think the consumers who want those things will have their incentives to buy it.

I'm getting a PS4 and always planned on it, but I am glad that competition exists. It will benefit both consoles. Just look at how the close race brought out so much quality in this current generation of gaming. If Xbox 1 isn't competitive, it might result in complacency. And even though Sony has learned from their mistakes, they've been known to get arrogant too (look at the PS3 launch), so I'm glad Microsoft will be there to keep them in check. Still, PS4 will probably be number one seller worldwide due to the brand's power and may even edge out Xbox in the US due to its price.

For those that believe X1 will have the same/stronger third party support probably haven't realized that the X1 is still only releasing in 21 countries.. and guess what... Japan isn't one of them. Japan the country that has the highest amount of game developers/publishers per square feet lol. The same country that has an insane market of gaming consumers.

This third party support that you might exist wont. Mark my words and I'll take bets on this.

I was just saying I'm not interested in gadgets features of Xbone, and that I'm probably not the only one. What's wrong with it ?

And come on, I'm misinformed ? Do you even know what cloud computing is ? It's only using the power server-side client side. Yeah that sound cool. Just sound.

Cloud processing sucks. Just because of one thing, the latency. A great ping (30 ms for exemple) is measured in milliseconds. Now, let's look at your CPU and GPU, much weaker than a server's CPU of course. Except that we are talking about GHz here, so nanoseconds here, not milliseconds.

Cloud gaming, for example, was interesting, because for 30 images/s, a ping of 50ms is enough. So the server can run the game, while taking your inputs and sending back the images. 30 milliseconds to send the input, a millisecond to make the calculations, 30 milliseconds to get the image back.

Now, cloudprocessing and the "infinite power of the cloud" :  The client send a problem, the server resolve it and send the answer. Approximatively 65 milliseconds with a great ping. For big calculations, that's fucking great. For most of your CPU/GPU usage, that's totally slow.

Some things, of course, can be better with the cloud. On a solo game, the only thing would be lighting, for almost anything else, it would be too slow, if I remember correctly.

Now, some multiplayer online games could benefit it.

But seriously, do you think that making calculation server side and send it to the client is new ? It always freaking existed, it was slightly improved lately, it now has a cool name so it's cool now.

Cloud processing always existed, always has been used, but now the word cloud is used so it's cool.

Of course it will add some "cool" features to games, but it won't be a revolution.

Azure is a big thing. Of course it adds something to the way we browse, it's a powerful web infrastructure. But it's not a revolution for gaming. In fact it's not revolution in any way, it's just an improvement of something that already existed.

Gaikai is not better of course, but at least is it used for gaming. Azure already have a lot of tasks, and I don't think the improvement of games and Xbox live will be it's primary use.

The incentives are there, it's just that compared to the PS4 the incentives are nullified. Like a great boxer making a good boxer look like an amateur.

Misinformed was maybe too strong :)

Having a server and doing remote computation is not new...
Now cloud computing and the way Microsoft and Amazon are doing it "is" new (well at least for few years)... You can disagree but the industry in general think otherwise.

No need to use "freaking" everywhere by the way to convince me.
I think you just take the "cloud" as a generic term when in fact it implies a lot of other things.

Neither will the PS4 be launching in Japan right away...your point?