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RareglovE said:

That is no doubt will be true. Sony has lost the US market to M$ and no matter how hard they try is all over for them.

Before the change in MS policies today the Xbone was really loosing US to PS4... that will change now.

I still don't know if it will pass the PS4 though. Lower price goes a long long way here in the US.



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Okay so lets recap, as a Sony fan you do not see any incentive to buy an Xbox One?
I see... Anyway, I can list them but you will certainly ignore them or just say that these are no incentive to you (which will not be surprising :))

- Titanfall, Halo, Forza, DeadRizing 3, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Garden Warface, PvZ2, etc...
- DLC first for many games
- Majority of good game coming to PS4 (and presented by Sony during E3 are coming to Xbox One too) : Destiny, Final Fantasy 14, Diablo 3, etc...
- Xbox Live
- Cloud computing (more scalability, and Sony have like no clue how to do that right now Google, Amazon and Microsoft knows how). Well on that side Sony may actually use Azure or Amazon S3 to do that. (and please do not compare this to Gaikai).
- Kinect 2
- The controller
- HDMI in
- SmartGlass with my existing devices (no need to buy a useless Vita just to do that)

As far as the hardware, the difference is negligible (like few devs already said even it the "internet" believe otherwise) and it has been proven with the PS3 that it does not really matter.



Imaginedvl said:
Okay so lets recap, as a Sony fan you do not see any incentive to buy an Xbox One?
I see... Anyway, I can list them but you will certainly ignore them or just say that these are no incentive to you (which will not be surprising :))

- Titanfall, Halo, Forza, DeadRizing 3, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Garden Warface, PvZ2, etc...
- DLC first for many games
- Majority of good game coming to PS4 (and presented by Sony during E3 are coming to Xbox One too) : Destiny, Final Fantasy 14, Diablo 3, etc...
- Xbox Live
- Cloud computing (more scalability, and Sony have like no clue how to do that right now Google, Amazon and Microsoft knows how). Well on that side Sony may actually use Azure or Amazon S3 to do that. (and please do not compare this to Gaikai).
- Kinect 2
- The controller
- HDMI in
- SmartGlass with my existing devices (no need to buy a useless Vita just to do that)

As far as the hardware, the difference is negligible (like few devs already said even it the "internet" believe otherwise) and it has been proven with the PS3 that it does not really matter.


the 360 accomplishes almost all of that already. what new innovations has MS brought to the table this gen? they threw it all out the window. All they have is cloud, which apparently wont be good as requiring internet in this day and age is deal breaker for people. so what makes it different from the 360? HDMI in and cloud. Not enough anymore.



The Halo series still remains the only real incentive for me getting an XBOX. The price of the X180 is now the only real major drawback though.



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Goddbless said:
SvennoJ said:
Goddbless said:


Isn't this what everyone was fighting for? They all said to remove the pointless DRM. I guess now we see the point... Also I don't understand how you complain about downloading a patch but tout the PS4s online features. Plus there has never been a MS console that could be reset to factory settings so where are you getting that from?

People weren't fighting for the removal of family sharing or against having your digital games available in the cloud. They wanted off-line play and disc ownership, next to digital. There is no reason not to keep the digital side the same as planned as a big incentive to get people to transition to digital over time. There must be more going on that MS completely nixed the family sharing plans. If it was all in place why not simply keep it for digitally bought licenses.

I'm guessing the firmware turns off anything that was tied to the DRM which would encompass digital sharing. Otherwise they would probably have to delay the launch in order to rework the functions of the console.

Doubt it. They're still keeping "Install the bits from the disc at your friend house, then your friend can buy the digital unlock key to keep playing when you take the game home". So there will be a distinction between the digital and physical drm with the same install data.

Maybe they don't want anymore confusion atm and will phase game sharing in later. I doubt all the conditions and negotiations with publishers about game sharing were finalized already. Best bet atm is total clarity, it's just like the 360, simple.

They might also have come to the conclusion that undercutting second hand sales with digital discounts could work better. Steam like sales would be welcome too, and better for publishers than game sharing.

2014 should be an interesting year.



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thranx said:
Imaginedvl said:
Okay so lets recap, as a Sony fan you do not see any incentive to buy an Xbox One?
I see... Anyway, I can list them but you will certainly ignore them or just say that these are no incentive to you (which will not be surprising :))

- Titanfall, Halo, Forza, DeadRizing 3, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Garden Warface, PvZ2, etc...
- DLC first for many games
- Majority of good game coming to PS4 (and presented by Sony during E3 are coming to Xbox One too) : Destiny, Final Fantasy 14, Diablo 3, etc...
- Xbox Live
- Cloud computing (more scalability, and Sony have like no clue how to do that right now Google, Amazon and Microsoft knows how). Well on that side Sony may actually use Azure or Amazon S3 to do that. (and please do not compare this to Gaikai).
- Kinect 2
- The controller
- HDMI in
- SmartGlass with my existing devices (no need to buy a useless Vita just to do that)

As far as the hardware, the difference is negligible (like few devs already said even it the "internet" believe otherwise) and it has been proven with the PS3 that it does not really matter.


the 360 accomplishes almost all of that already. what new innovations has MS brought to the table this gen? they threw it all out the window. All they have is cloud, which apparently wont be good as requiring internet in this day and age is deal breaker for people. so what makes it different from the 360? HDMI in and cloud. Not enough anymore.

Hum... So what? The PS4 is innovative in what area exactly? The PS3 was doing everything the PS4 is doing...
Kinect2, the Cloud and HDMI in are new addition, like it or not.
And these exclusives are just playable on Xbox One.

I'm not sure what was the point of your reply :)



Imaginedvl said:
Okay so lets recap, as a Sony fan you do not see any incentive to buy an Xbox One?
I see... Anyway, I can list them but you will certainly ignore them or just say that these are no incentive to you (which will not be surprising :))

- Titanfall, Halo, Forza, DeadRizing 3, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Garden Warface, PvZ2, etc...
- DLC first for many games
- Majority of good game coming to PS4 (and presented by Sony during E3 are coming to Xbox One too) : Destiny, Final Fantasy 14, Diablo 3, etc...
- Xbox Live
- Cloud computing (more scalability, and Sony have like no clue how to do that right now Google, Amazon and Microsoft knows how). Well on that side Sony may actually use Azure or Amazon S3 to do that. (and please do not compare this to Gaikai).
- Kinect 2
- The controller
- HDMI in
- SmartGlass with my existing devices (no need to buy a useless Vita just to do that)

As far as the hardware, the difference is negligible (like few devs already said even it the "internet" believe otherwise) and it has been proven with the PS3 that it does not really matter.

- Titanfall, Halo, Forza, DeadRizing 3, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Garden Warface, PvZ2, etc...

 Not interested in guns and cars, but still a good point
- DLC first for many games

I saw DLC and laughed
- Majority of good game coming to PS4 (and presented by Sony during E3 are coming to Xbox One too) : Destiny, Final Fantasy 14, Diablo 3, etc... 

Multiplats will likely look better on PS4 (360 owners liked to say that on actual gen)
- Xbox Live

PS+
- Cloud computing (more scalability, and Sony have like no clue how to do that right now Google, Amazon and Microsoft knows how). Well on that side Sony may actually use Azure or Amazon S3 to do that. (and please do not compare this to Gaikai).

Come on, Gaikai. Gaikai = coul gaming. Azure ? maybe hotmail 

- Kinect 2

Most of the casuals  that could love kinect 2 noticed they haven't played Wii for like 3 years now. Why would they like kinect 2 ? It's an amazing device, and there are plenty of things I'd like to do with it (a friend of mine used it for a hand driven drone). Just not gaming.
- The controller

Cool for Big hands, sucks in Asia. I used xbox pad for 5 years total, against Dualshock for 15 years. So DS4 still win to me. But still, great controller.
- HDMI in 

My TV too. 
- SmartGlass with my existing devices (no need to buy a useless Vita just to do that)
I have a useless vita and 15 useless games on it. Great piece of technology, hyper reactive buttons and joysticks, great connectivity. Useless lol.

 

So, it has a cool controller and some games I don't care of. The rest is gadget I don't need. and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.



I'm pretty sure there are good points to both the ps4 and xbox one for people.



Imaginedvl said:
thranx said:
Imaginedvl said:
Okay so lets recap, as a Sony fan you do not see any incentive to buy an Xbox One?
I see... Anyway, I can list them but you will certainly ignore them or just say that these are no incentive to you (which will not be surprising :))

- Titanfall, Halo, Forza, DeadRizing 3, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Garden Warface, PvZ2, etc...
- DLC first for many games
- Majority of good game coming to PS4 (and presented by Sony during E3 are coming to Xbox One too) : Destiny, Final Fantasy 14, Diablo 3, etc...
- Xbox Live
- Cloud computing (more scalability, and Sony have like no clue how to do that right now Google, Amazon and Microsoft knows how). Well on that side Sony may actually use Azure or Amazon S3 to do that. (and please do not compare this to Gaikai).
- Kinect 2
- The controller
- HDMI in
- SmartGlass with my existing devices (no need to buy a useless Vita just to do that)

As far as the hardware, the difference is negligible (like few devs already said even it the "internet" believe otherwise) and it has been proven with the PS3 that it does not really matter.


the 360 accomplishes almost all of that already. what new innovations has MS brought to the table this gen? they threw it all out the window. All they have is cloud, which apparently wont be good as requiring internet in this day and age is deal breaker for people. so what makes it different from the 360? HDMI in and cloud. Not enough anymore.

Hum... So what? The PS4 is innovative in what area exactly? The PS3 was doing everything the PS4 is doing...
Kinect2, the Cloud and HDMI in are new addition, like it or not.
And these exclusives are just playable on Xbox One.

I'm not sure what was the point of your reply :)


PS4 isn't innovative either. only the Wii U this gen has been. I replied because the incentives you listed aren't really incentives. if they can be gotten elsware there is no incentive to get the xbox one. it requires exclusive features. There is nothing different from it to the xbox 360 or ps3/ps4. Exlusive games is the only reason, same can be said for any system. its just the same as all the other boxes out there now. The 360 was leading the way in the mUltiplayer area and online, it gave incentive to buy that console over the others (not to mention price). What is there now? Kinect 2 isnt innovative, its the same as before just more powerful (which is great as i love my kinect) hdmi in offers some great tv function ality, but with the apps on the 360 i get a very similar experience. Its not innovative, just he same course the xbox 360 was already heading. So really it just the cloud, which requires internet, apparently thats a bad thing. If you cant be bothered to have a console check in 1 every day, how will you take advantage of the cloud. If you are going to take advantage of the clud and have your box on the net, why not have all the awesome digital features? by splitting it up they wont be able to get a price advantage on digital sales like steam has done. its going to be another gen just ike this one. where is the fun in that?



RenCutypoison said:
Imaginedvl said:
Okay so lets recap, as a Sony fan you do not see any incentive to buy an Xbox One?
I see... Anyway, I can list them but you will certainly ignore them or just say that these are no incentive to you (which will not be surprising :))

- Titanfall, Halo, Forza, DeadRizing 3, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Garden Warface, PvZ2, etc...
- DLC first for many games
- Majority of good game coming to PS4 (and presented by Sony during E3 are coming to Xbox One too) : Destiny, Final Fantasy 14, Diablo 3, etc...
- Xbox Live
- Cloud computing (more scalability, and Sony have like no clue how to do that right now Google, Amazon and Microsoft knows how). Well on that side Sony may actually use Azure or Amazon S3 to do that. (and please do not compare this to Gaikai).
- Kinect 2
- The controller
- HDMI in
- SmartGlass with my existing devices (no need to buy a useless Vita just to do that)

As far as the hardware, the difference is negligible (like few devs already said even it the "internet" believe otherwise) and it has been proven with the PS3 that it does not really matter.

- Titanfall, Halo, Forza, DeadRizing 3, Project Spark, Killer Instinct, Garden Warface, PvZ2, etc...

 Not interested in guns and cars, but still a good point
- DLC first for many games

I saw DLC and laughed
- Majority of good game coming to PS4 (and presented by Sony during E3 are coming to Xbox One too) : Destiny, Final Fantasy 14, Diablo 3, etc... 

Multiplats will likely look better on PS4 (360 owners liked to say that on actual gen)
- Xbox Live

PS+
- Cloud computing (more scalability, and Sony have like no clue how to do that right now Google, Amazon and Microsoft knows how). Well on that side Sony may actually use Azure or Amazon S3 to do that. (and please do not compare this to Gaikai).

Come on, Gaikai. Gaikai = coul gaming. Azure ? maybe hotmail 

- Kinect 2

Most of the casuals  that could love kinect 2 noticed they haven't played Wii for like 3 years now. Why would they like kinect 2 ? It's an amazing device, and there are plenty of things I'd like to do with it (a friend of mine used it for a hand driven drone). Just not gaming.
- The controller

Cool for Big hands, sucks in Asia. I used xbox pad for 5 years total, against Dualshock for 15 years. So DS4 still win to me. But still, great controller.
- HDMI in 

My TV too. 
- SmartGlass with my existing devices (no need to buy a useless Vita just to do that)
I have a useless vita and 15 useless games on it. Great piece of technology, hyper reactive buttons and joysticks, great connectivity. Useless lol.

 

So, it has a cool controller and some games I don't care of. The rest is gadget I don't need. and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.

Seriously, just all bolded quote show how biased and uninformed you are.... You are just no clue what is Azure, congrats of showing that in your anwser.

Also regarding the "not interrested" or the "I have a Vita", the world is not levitating around you...
This thread was about the incencitives to get an Xbox One. You are obviously not, so why are you replying and bashing on someone else incencitive?

Stop jumping out of your chair in the defense of your precious PS4. It is okay; the PS4 also have a lot to offer to these interresting in it...