+1 "Stupids". 

Good grief! How is this supposed to make your argument any more solid? It's still based on a logical fallacy, the exact same logical fallacy that I pointed out already.

Anyhow, this is beside the point I was interested in anyway. I guess you have sort of confirmed what I was asking about in the first place, though in the most round about way possible.

Well, that pretty much sums it up for me, feel free to take the last parting shot and you shall have the last word. You can even feel free to convince yourself that you're reasoning is so rock solid that I decided to bail out of the discussion rather than continue the exchange.

I was wondering the same thing and i think it has alot to do with whats going on. It reminds of PS3 early troubles where it was good in one area but lacking in another which would effect how certain games run despite specs being similar. Like Skyrim? They might sort it out in the future like they did with PS3, it got better over time.

Coming from Jesus, I'd said that's a compliment. I will admit, thinking on it now, the PS2 had a lot of careting for the casuals and I was wrong on that part. At the very least, I don't remember it being so blatant about it. The most casual game I had was a spongebob, revenge of the flying dutchman. 

Nevertheless, my point still stands. The Wii U can win the gen, I highly doubt but there is no way it could have sold at PS2 level. 

I think PS2 was a casual system due to alot of people who dont play games often getting Iit because it was a cheap DVD player that just so happened to also play games. You could make the argument that sports games are casual, alot of people I know that u wouldnt consider a traditional gamer buy whatever there favorite sport but not much else. Also to an extent GTA can be considered casual since alot of people didnt buy it to actually complete the missions, they just wanted to run around and cause havok.

Im not trying to say PS2 was designed solely for casuals but theres no denying it didnt have its fair share of non gamers.

"the exact same logical fallacy that I pointed out already"

which logical fallacy are you reffering to? you mean the crap that you claimed i said but never said or implied?

all you did was claim that i said or implied things that i never did... and unfortunately  for you that was the basis of your criticisms up to this point 

in fact you even fucked up before that when you didn't even realise which of lilchickens statements i was reffering to

yet even at this point you don't have the common decency to just admit that you were wrong lol

you really are quite a guy

if i misunderstood what you were saying there i'd honestly like to know what logical fallacy you're reffering to...

and please if you do take the time to reply at least make the effort this time to actually reffer to things i've said, not rely on what ever delusions your mind can orchestrate

if you honestly think that examples that i've used like super mario u are actually original then i really am done here

I like EA if they say it can't run on Wii U well so be it, not their fault blame Nintendo not the Devs. They said they try to run it and it just wouldn't do on the Wii u? Yeah I believe that, but why do any Nintendo fan care? Let me know if I'm wrong but I thought people only buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo's first party games Mario, Zelda, yoahi yarn etc? with those amazing awesome titles you got nothing to worry about for get about them silly crazy Grafix running engines. can't wait for E3!

Exactly what IP does EA own that it could license out and make money with?  It keeps seeming to get its profits soaked up acquiring IP.

Judging purely by the title of this thread.... me thinks your is stupids!

Aren't people always saying that they buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games? What is the problem here?

Old games that are worth like 20  being sold for 60?  What makes the game cost 3x the money Ps360 owners have to pay?
Seriously thats something DLC addicts might consider but Nintendo gamers usually avoid DLC (because they know that its not enough value for the money) and the same applies to the "old games on new console".  Most gamers these days have no feeling for "value" anymore thats why they buy all the crap.

Seriously If EA would be a smart company they would have sold Mass Effect 3  on WiiU for 29.99 at max and then would have waited at least 6 months before announcing ME trilogy for PS360 AND WIIU!!!. They killed the WiiU version before it was out.

Why would anyone buy ME3 for 60 when you could get the whole trilogy for the same price?    Same happend to  Metal Gear Solid on 3DS.  Everyone who announces a better deal  with basically the same game  before the "worse deal" is even out  just kills it.

I mean would you buy a PSvita for 250 right now  if you would know the console would be bundled with 4 games and cost 250 next week?  Or if the console would get a price drop to 100 in two weeks?  No sane person would do that.

All those old games steam offers for like 6bucks hit WiiU for 60.... Look at SquareEnix.  DeusEx is destined to "fail" it would have been to late on WiiU's launch day and its not even out today. Tomb Raider on the other hand would have been a better choice. I would have bought that (as long as it would be a 30+FPS game)