I didn't advice you to do anything. I asked you a question, the question was if you are aware of your posting pattern and the weakness of the argument or not. The reason why I ask is because I want to know if you are trolling, or just not very adapt at seeing the logical concluisons of statements.

Unless it's not clear, I have not entered into the current debate about platformers vs. sports franchises or whatver the discussion has evolved to by now. There's no point for me to point out why your argument is inconsistent and unreasonable, others have already done a fine job of that anyway if you were wondering what I was refering to.

It seems that you have misunderstood the entire premise of what I was asking, let me condense it down to a level that might be more appropriate:

You trollin', bro?

Next time bring some sources please, because you made that up about CryEngine 3 ( http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/20/crytek-cryengine-3-beautiful-on-wii-u ). UE4 is a scalable engine so that even phones can run them. Like I already said; EA isn't even trying to get us believe them a LITTLE bit. They don't deserve respect in any form until they simply convince not wanting to develop for Wii U because of the missing audience who prefers original games over the same generic shooter over and over again. Blaming the Wii U power as an excuse is just disgusting.

" others have already done a fine job of that anyway if you were wondering what I was refering to."

lol no they haven't, others brought up CoD and madden which are entirely unrelated to lilchickens post on EA shooters ( which is the original point i quoted )

as of yet no one has tackled my point 

"Do you realize how your blatant cherry picking reflects on your reputation for being able to bring up a valid point in other discussions?

I don't spend too much time on this site, so I have not run into you here before. Now though I have created a little cache in my vgchartz mind where I have stored your avatar, funy username and the comment "does not seem capable of rational debate". Perhaps this is unfair of me, but that's the way it goes. The next time (God forbid) I see something you post on this site, my immidiate thought will be "this guy doesn't think through his points very well" and you'll have a much harder time convincing me that I should take what you have to say seriously."

this is what our discussion here is stemming from where you rant at length about rational debate all i'm saying is that you yourself have not demonstrated the ability to have rational debate over the course of our discussion

instead of as i said before raising points to reinforce or contradict my point you're branching off in some other direction entirely

btw its against the rules to call someone a troll

edit: "There's no point for me to point out why your argument is inconsistent and unreasonable"

whats stopping you from doing so?

as someone who has being going on and on at length about rational debate i'd think you'd jump at the chance to raise some contradictory points against mine

but no instead you resort to spouting vitriol lol

I am not sure you understand what rational debate means? I think you'll find that my posts in this thread represent a clear and logical structure with all points I am raising leading to and supporting the same conclusion. It's not necessary to debate New Super Mario Bros. for an argument to be rational.

I read your posts, wanted to know if you actually thought you had put forward a reasonable proposition or not, and called you out for your lack of sensible reasoning. Sure, I didn't spell out in detail where your reasoning is lacking, but I am not really interested in that anyway. As I said, I assume most members of the site are able to make that call for themselves.

Anyway, if you insist, here is how your argument is weak:

original proposition : Nintendo gamers like new and fresh game experiences

your rebuttal : Link to two Mario games that (in your mind presumably) have not changed much in 20 years

supporting point : two links to to Donkey Kong games that (in your mind presumably) have not changed much in 20 years

conclusion : lol

For this kind of argument to make rational sense one of these things must be true

• These four games represent the full number of games Nintendo gamers can chose from for their new and fresh experiences (the premise is false)

• Since two franchises have not changed much over 20 years, no other new or fresh games can exsist (Affirming the consequent)

Either way the argument is based on a logical fallacy and is thus not rational.

So, with that out of the way: Were you being serious, or are you just trolling?

Dodece said:

You know sometimes it really is the case that you get what you pay for. The Nintendo owners effectively spent next to nothing on EA software last generation, and EA taking that cue spent just about as much on game development for the Wii U. I actually believe them, because I think it was a question of whether the engine would work as is, and if it didn't work as is they weren't going to waste time and money getting it to work on the platform.

I honestly don't understand what the complaining is about. Nintendo console owners bought the console explicitly to play a few first party games from Nintendo. They had no real intention of buying games from third parties, and they almost always own a second console to play third party games on. Third party game development on Nintendo consoles is actually pretty redundant.

Personally I think the GameCube generation was probably the last purist generation as far as Nintendo was concerned. It is just a secondary console brand now, or a expensive peripheral for those that have that kind of money to waste. I think that last generations over the top casual focus finally forced a lot of purists into adopting other consoles. I also think that it was quite the revelation for them, and a lot of them aren't coming back.

I would say if anything Nintendo and its fans have been pretty stupid. You can't just squander third party support, and expect it to stick around. If you don't use it you will absolutely lose it. Third party game developers make games to make money. If they aren't making money then they can't continue making games. What else is there to say really. This has been going on for a long time. Third parties getting squeezed off of the platform to make even more room for Nintendo.

We are already seeing their debacle, 1000 lay offs is something to be very worried about. Lets see how they do in the future.