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Who will be the king for casuals next gen?

Microsoft 59 33.33%
 
Nintendo 71 40.11%
 
Casual gaming will die 47 26.55%
 
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KingHades on 23 January 2013
sales2099 said:
KingHades said:
ironmanDX said:
KingHades said:
ironmanDX said:
 


KingHades said:
To be honest the 360 is casual all around.

 

That's a jab. Like me saying Ps3 would be a casual console if move wasn't an obvious, blatant and shit copy of the Nintendo Wii. They tried to be casual and failed. Jab.

You have a point,BUT when was the last time Sony pushed the move?

Microsoft is still pushing Kinect,which is their main priority next gen. Casual? Indeed


You know their next/current gen game plan already? Fill us in, please?

 

Wonderbook is pretty recent isn't it? I'd call that a push.

When was the last time Move was advertised? Don't worry I can wait.

He just said Wonderbook....it had marketing.

Your comment actually just insults Sony, who would love to advertise Move in general.....if it was a success

Marketing on TV? Last time I saw a move commercial was like 2 years ago.

A kinect commercial? 3 months ago? 

"Sony, who would love to advertise Move in general.....if it was a success" 

 What about the Vita it's not a success yet they are still advertising/pushing it?



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sales2099 on 23 January 2013
KingHades said:
sales2099 said:
KingHades said:
ironmanDX said:
KingHades said:
ironmanDX said:
 


KingHades said:
To be honest the 360 is casual all around.

 

That's a jab. Like me saying Ps3 would be a casual console if move wasn't an obvious, blatant and shit copy of the Nintendo Wii. They tried to be casual and failed. Jab.

You have a point,BUT when was the last time Sony pushed the move?

Microsoft is still pushing Kinect,which is their main priority next gen. Casual? Indeed


You know their next/current gen game plan already? Fill us in, please?

 

Wonderbook is pretty recent isn't it? I'd call that a push.

When was the last time Move was advertised? Don't worry I can wait.

He just said Wonderbook....it had marketing.

Your comment actually just insults Sony, who would love to advertise Move in general.....if it was a success

Marketing on TV? Last time I saw a move commercial was like 2 years ago.

A kinect commercial? 3 months ago? 

"Sony, who would love to advertise Move in general.....if it was a success" 

 What about the Vita it's not a success yet they are still advertising/pushing it?

Guess Wonderbook ads were mostly in the UK. Cause it was marketed.

Vita is kinda a big thing....a dedicated handheld. Move is a 2nd option, a accessory, to a self sustaining gamepad based console.

Oh ya.....totally the same thing.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 23 January 2013

Microsoft cant essentially "steal" casuals. Casuals aren't loyal they just go for whatever is big in the media. Casuals can only be stolen if they are loyal.



KingHades on 23 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft cant essentially "steal" casuals. Casuals aren't loyal they just go for whatever is big in the media.

You can't steal something you already have.



S.T.A.G.E. on 23 January 2013
KingHades said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsoft cant essentially "steal" casuals. Casuals aren't loyal they just go for whatever is big in the media.

You can't steal something you already have.


Casuals are an almost unlimited potential market when it comes to games. The problem is they aren't loyal, but rather compulsive, spur of the moment buyers.



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VGKing on 23 January 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft cant essentially "steal" casuals. Casuals aren't loyal they just go for whatever is big in the media. Casuals can only be stolen if they are loyal.



I don't know man I think casuals are pretty loyal. Good examples of this are iPhones and iPads success. If we're talking games then a good example would be Call of Duty.(but this is a different kind of casual audience than Kinect. obviously)

S.T.A.G.E. on 23 January 2013
VGKing said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Microsoft cant essentially "steal" casuals. Casuals aren't loyal they just go for whatever is big in the media. Casuals can only be stolen if they are loyal.


I don't know man I think casuals are pretty loyal. Good examples of this are iPhones and iPads success. If we're talking games then a good example would be Call of Duty.(but this is a different kind of casual audience than Kinect. obviously)


Samsung is taking casuals from IPhone. They are not loyal, they go to the next big thing that has a commercial on TV. They switch every two years on a contract in the US, it's nothing new.



noname2200 on 23 January 2013
Jumpin said:
I am not sure who these elusive "casuals" are.


They're Them. The others. Those people. Folks who you can walk up to at a bakery, ask if the cake is a lie, and get nothing more than a strange look and a hand slowly reaching for the can of pepper spray. Losers, basically. Unlike us.



S.T.A.G.E. on 23 January 2013
Jumpin said:
I am not sure who these elusive "casuals" are. The vast majority of Wii owners are regular gamers. 150 million+ bought DS and 100 million bought Wii.


Casuals are non-gamers who ride the commercial wave when new tech comes out, then they replace it for the next big thing. They are the opposite of regulars.



Mr Puggsly on 23 January 2013
VGKing said:
Mr Puggsly said:
VGKing said:
Nintendo.
Xbox has an identity crisis. It doesn't know if it wants to be a games machine or a multimedia hub, casual or hardcore...etc. Microsoft will have a tough time balancing all of this out at the beginning of next-gen.

IF they can pull it off though...they could be market leader. But who knows what Sony has planned. They'll attack that market as well.

Why do you refer to it as an identity crisis? I'd argue trying to appeal to all markets has kept sales strong.

You can't do everything at once. Microsoft needs to market it as a games machine for the first year or so then move on to other things such as multi-media and Kinect. They need to focus on 1 main selling point and that should be the games IMO. Of course I'm not saying they should advertise other features, I'm saying they should get their priorities straight. My worst fear is consoles becoming PCs and so I dislike it when they are advertised as one.

The main focus for Xbox 360 has always been games. MS has advertised other features, but games were always the main focus. Its the games that really distinguish a platform and move hardware.

What does it matter if consoles become PCs? As long as there is competition publishers and developers will keep raising the bar when it comes to games and other features.



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