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man-bear-pig said:
Carl2291 said:
This GT5 vs Forza Series thing is hilarious and desperate. Lets look at the most accurate, up-to-date numbers we have available. We have GT numbers up to September from PD and we have Forza numbers from RIGHT NOW on VGChartz.

GT5 + GT5: Prologue - 14.5 Million units.

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

Forza 2, Forza 3, Forza 4, Forza Horizon - 12.4 Million units.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=forza&publisher=&platform=X360&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

1 game and a glorified Demo vs. 3 main games and a spinoff. Just face it. Forza is nowhere near the level Gran Turismo is. Never will be. Microsoft can release a game Yearly. They can bundle it every Holiday. Its simply not desired by the public half as much as Gran Turismo. Just give it up already.


Why do people keep making these ridiculous comparisons?

You're using vgchartz figures for one franchise and other figures (which are shipped, btw) from another source for another franchise. This gen, using vgchartz figures (as it's the only way we can effectively compare sales), Forza has sold more than GT. Simples!

Oh. Were talking the entire generation? In that case, Gran Turismo is at ~15.1 Million (1 game, 1 demo, 1 spinoff) using VGChartz figures. When Brett finally gets around to putting the proper adjustments into place then thats gonna be closer to 16 Million! Pretty awesome.

Check your numbers before you spout your rubbish



                            

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Carl2291 said:
man-bear-pig said:
Carl2291 said:
This GT5 vs Forza Series thing is hilarious and desperate. Lets look at the most accurate, up-to-date numbers we have available. We have GT numbers up to September from PD and we have Forza numbers from RIGHT NOW on VGChartz.

GT5 + GT5: Prologue - 14.5 Million units.

http://www.polyphony.co.jp/english/list.html

Forza 2, Forza 3, Forza 4, Forza Horizon - 12.4 Million units.

http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=forza&publisher=&platform=X360&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

1 game and a glorified Demo vs. 3 main games and a spinoff. Just face it. Forza is nowhere near the level Gran Turismo is. Never will be. Microsoft can release a game Yearly. They can bundle it every Holiday. Its simply not desired by the public half as much as Gran Turismo. Just give it up already.


Why do people keep making these ridiculous comparisons?

You're using vgchartz figures for one franchise and other figures (which are shipped, btw) from another source for another franchise. This gen, using vgchartz figures (as it's the only way we can effectively compare sales), Forza has sold more than GT. Simples!

Oh. Were talking the entire generation? In that case, Gran Turismo is at ~15.1 Million (1 game, 1 demo, 1 spinoff) using VGChartz figures. When Brett finally gets around to putting the proper adjustments into place then thats gonna be closer to 16 Million! Pretty awesome.

Check your numbers before you spout your rubbish


I was only including home console games.

Also, calm down Carl. They're only games. None of this has any bearing on real life.



where did playstation all-star go? o.O



AmericanAli said:
where did playstation all-star go? o.O


The game barely charted in the UK :( 

I didn't comment on the Wii-U European sales before, so I'll comment now: Terrible.

Less than the Vita is just awful, at this time of year it should be the top selling console in Europe with a decent launch. Nintendo need to advertise fast!



Wii U european launch, wow. How does that compare to Wii launch? I guess it is time to make a thread about Wii U vs Wii sales...



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alright then but where is Ratchet and Clank Full Frontal Assault? It released last week here in the US



DanneSandin said:
If we take in to consideration that Wii U only were available for 2 days in Europe, and still outsold Xbox360 and is lagging behind the PS3 with 50k, I'd say that's pretty good numbers...!

You sure?



It seems Xbox 360 dominance, even in the lead up to Christmas seems to be ending. It has never been so close before. Just 20000 between the two!



Xbox Series, PS5 and Switch (+ Many Retro Consoles)

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Prediction: Switch 2 will outsell the PS5 by 2030

the2real4mafol said:
It seems Xbox 360 dominance, even in the lead up to Christmas seems to be ending. It has never been so close before. Just 20000 between the two!


In its 2 strongest regions it is dominating the competition.  The problem is they didn't price cut Europe hence the lower demand.  Either way its clear Microsoft are happy with their market share as its all about profitability for them.  



slowmo said:
the2real4mafol said:
It seems Xbox 360 dominance, even in the lead up to Christmas seems to be ending. It has never been so close before. Just 20000 between the two!


In its 2 strongest regions it is dominating the competition.  The problem is they didn't price cut Europe hence the lower demand.  Either way its clear Microsoft are happy with their market share as its all about profitability for them.  

I agree, as these sales currently don't matter too much anymore, as Microsoft have established there platform now and are safe in the gaming industry for a while yet. I mean Xbox went from being 5 billion in debt to huge levels of profit. it couldn't of gone any better for Microsoft



Xbox Series, PS5 and Switch (+ Many Retro Consoles)

'When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called the people's stick'- Mikhail Bakunin

Prediction: Switch 2 will outsell the PS5 by 2030