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Between 30-40M by the end of its entire lifecycle seems reasonable.



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This was quite a read, Gamerace's post is incredibly insightful and spot-on in my opinion. It highlights the same thing I've been thinking for a long time; the Wii U lacks basic appeal, this can not be remedied through pricing and software, the core design is greatly flawed.
2014 will show once and for all where the thing is headed and whether this theory is correct, I can wait another year or so.

I also find it somewhat funny that Nintendo fans, who always go on about how much more mature they are, are raging so badly over being proven wrong and called out.
There were a lot of very loud and smug Ninty fans in the Wii era, spamming every sales thread with; "Nintendomination!" every week, laughing at the low sales of the competition and looking down on people with different tastes and opinions.
How is a thread like this not well and truly deserved upon them in hindsight?
Hubris and all that.

As for the OP: it appears you might have been right. John Lucas goes for the regular 240 million lifetime I see, that oughta spark some discussion in the coming months and years!



Anyone could see that Wii U would fail. This thread is hilarious.



johnlucas said:
man-bear-pig said:

I actually had 8 giant bullet-points typed out to explain my prediction, but for some reason the page re-loaded and the text disappeared. I'm not gonna type it again damn it!!

Anyway, I'll bump this thread in 10 years.

In the meantime..do you agree? do you disagree? If you have any questions, fire away.


You forgot to add a 2 to the Hundred Millions column, man-bear-pig.

That should read 240 million not 40 million.
TWO hundred and forty million not forty million.

See the following for more details.
UNITY - Nintendo & Wii U Finish The REVOLUTION
John Lucas


It's not going to sell 240m units John Lucas...your thread is great but as soon as you said those numbers it became ridiculous. You expect the Wii U to sell 12m by 31 December 2013...so it has to sell ~1.2m weekly until the end of the year...and last week it only sold 82k. It's just not gonna happen



XboneWins said:
Anyone could see that Wii U would fail. This thread is hilarious.


Nah, when he made this people were really optimistic about the Wii U. It might have appeared like a troll thread to get juicy reactions out of fanboys, but now it seems m-b-p is a Nintendo optimist and true lover of the platform.



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chocoloco said:
XboneWins said:
Anyone could see that Wii U would fail. This thread is hilarious.


Nah, when he made this peopplew were really optimistic about the Wii U. It might have appeared like a troll thread to get juicy reactions out of fanboys, but now it seems m-b-p is a Nintendo optimist and true lover of the platform.


So you are saying that Nintendo fans were optimistic and expected more? What a shocker.



DanneSandin said:

What people seem to forget is the competition. Why isn't anybody understanding that Sony won't be able to make a major jump over the WiiU? Viper1 actually made this very clear in superchunk's VS thread. I'll quote a bit of it:

"The high end PS3 launched in Japan for ¥59,980 which was $558 in 2006 but is $766 today. So even if they dropped the PS4 launch price to, say, ¥39,980, that still makes it $510 today. So no matter what, provided the exchange doesn't rapidly move to weaken the Yen in the next year, Sony will either have to launch with a very large loss or reduce the capabilities of the system to launch at a more market friendly price. This is one of the reasons the 3DS launched at such a high price compared to the DS several years before. To hold the same margin of profit or loss, now requires a far higher foreign price than it did before.

And a $100 loss per console is far too much for them as a company now than it was back in 2006. In 2006, they were a financially sound comapny. That is not the case today. If they sold 10 million units at a $100 loss, that's a $1 billion loss to a company that can't handle taking on another billion dollar loss."

Clearly Sony won't be able to take a major leap next gen due to their financial situation, and due to the exchange rate. They might take a $50 hit for every console, but that's not nearly enough if they wanna blow the Wii U out of the waters.

And if Sony won't make a cutting edge machine, why would Microsoft? As far as we know, they'll probably bundle the console with Kinect 2.0, and they'd price such a bundle at about $399 - or $449 at the most. With the Kinect bundled at that price they won't be able to make a bleeding edge console. Sure they could take a $100 hit/console with a $449 price tag, but will that be enough of power packed in the box to dominate both PS4 and Wii U? Maybe.

But consider this then: If Xbox3 is waaaay more powerful than WiiStation4U (like how PS3 was to PS2), which platform(s) do you think the developers would make games for? It'll be cheaper to make games for WiiStation4U than for the cutting edge Xbox3, and there will probably be a bigger user base for WiiStation4U (2 consoles combined) rather than for the 1 Xbox3. Thus, Xbox3 would get up scaled ports from WiiStation4U - NOT taking advantage of all the power Xbox3 has - meaning, all games will look about as good on all consoles.

What's my point then? This:

If all games will look equally good on all the consoles (with only minor differences) and all consoles will therefore get the same 3rd party support. And thus, the winner of next gen will be determent by other factors, and that's why WiiU might win next gen. It all comes down to:

3rd party games (which they all will have)

1st party games (and we all know Nintendo dominates this category)

Unique features for each console (like the GamePad or Kinect 2.0)

And that's why WiiU won't sell less than 40m units. They'll have 3rd party support. They certainly have the 1st party titles. They have unique features, but it remains to see if they'll be enough. They could win this gen. I'm telling you; they could reach 120m sold WiiU's life time. At the very least they'll reach 60m sold units.


This post man...this fucking post :D

So...many...things...wrong xD



XboneWins said:
chocoloco said:
XboneWins said:
Anyone could see that Wii U would fail. This thread is hilarious.


Nah, when he made this peopplew were really optimistic about the Wii U. It might have appeared like a troll thread to get juicy reactions out of fanboys, but now it seems m-b-p is a Nintendo optimist and true lover of the platform.


So you are saying that Nintendo fans were optimistic and expected more? What a shocker.

No I am saying you original post is wrong the majority of people were not predicting sales would be this low at the time. Even balanced posters were predicting high numbers.



         I still believe that the Wii U can sell more than 40 million with  great marketing and tons of games.



                
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ryuzaki57 said:
40m seems quite optimistic. How can it sell more than GC and N64? Those two had solid 3rd party support while WiiU has barely any.

I will still laugh at people who claim that either console had solid 3rd party support. If a non-Nintendo console got the level of third party support that the GameCube got in its time, people would be calling for publisher's heads to be displayed on pikes.



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