Of course a game has to be specifically designed to work with wiimote+nunchuck, after all traditional games are specifically designed to work with a dual analog controllers. And no I've never said every game should force you to play with the wiimote (by the way I've never even mentioned the wiimote in this thread). You're using PC games as a paragon but actually the interface of PCs has evolved too, you don't play every PC game with mouse + keyboard, most frequently when you play sports games, finghting games or driving games or flight simulations you use a controller or a wheel or a cloche. In other words you can use the most fitting controller option depending on which game you're playing.

I don't think the wiimote is overall superior to a standard controller, it's just a better alternative, only for some kind of games. While the "average" hardcore gamer has discharged it as gimmick for casual games. I just hope the same won't happen with this new controller.

Hardcore console gamers are holding the industry back. They don't like any change, hence the ditching of the PS3 boomerang controller. I haven't bothered to read through this thread, but I will say this, the controller is reportedly very comfortable and has all the buttons you would need to play modern games (in addition to the touch screen which has a lot of neat applications), but because it doesn't look exactly like a PS1 dual shock or an evolved Dream Cast controller(due to 360s success, although you still have A LOT of people bitching about it's stick placement, when it really does feel more natural for navigating 3d space.) people will say its a terrible controller.

Fuck no! The Wii U controller is clearly aimed at the everyday average gamer, not loser hardcore-gamers.

If Nintendo wanted to appeal to hardcore gamers, they would

A. Need to make a controller that involved 0 movement - hardcore gamers become tired very easily due to health problems.
B. Appeal to people who generally don't like light, so games with lots of greys and browns - hardcore gamers generally live in their mother's basement (I specified mother, because there's no way someone with a true father figure in their childhood would identify as a "hardcore gamer").
C. Appeal to people who don't have any form of family or females in their lives, so games with lots of polygonal boobs, shooting, and that sort of thing - hardcore gamers are usually angry virgins, there is no woman in their lives besides their mother, and they're probably not on speaking terms; also as a result of this, hardcore gamers usually have a sickly depraved image of women that often is tied to hostility.

Hardcore gamers are the opposite of Nintendo; and generally hate Nintendo because Nintendo betrayed them with the Wii, even though they were never Nintendo fans to begin with.

Um, it's just a controller.

It's just how you interact with the game.

Jumpin 8 minutes ago





"Fuck no! The Wii U controller is clearly aimed at the everyday average gamer, not loser hardcore-gamers.

If Nintendo wanted to appeal to hardcore gamers, they would

A. Need to make a controller that involved 0 movement - hardcore gamers become tired very easily due to health problems.
B. Appeal to people who generally don't like light, so games with lots of greys and browns - hardcore gamers generally live in their mother's basement (I specified mother, because there's no way someone with a true father figure in their childhood would identify as a "hardcore gamer").
C. Appeal to people who don't have any form of family or females in their lives, so games with lots of polygonal boobs, shooting, and that sort of thing - hardcore gamers are usually angry virgins, there is no woman in their lives besides their mother, and they're probably not on speaking terms; also as a result of this, hardcore gamers usually have a sickly depraved image of women that often is tied to hostility.

Hardcore gamers are the opposite of Nintendo; and generally hate Nintendo because Nintendo betrayed them with the Wii, even though they were never Nintendo fans to begin with."

LOL! xD
Nice!

If you are a so called "hardcore gamer" it doesnt matter what control scheme a console throws at you. You should be skilled enough to adapt to it....dual analogue, d-pad,tablet,joystick,Wiimote,mouse and keyboard.Im equally skilled on all of them. (im a dab hand with a lightgun as well)

I cannot stop laughing at Jorges' picture lol!

On topic: So far it has all the ordinary dualshock buttons so I cannot see why it isn't going to appeal to the hardcore audience. Also, if I were a developer I would (when possible) try to support the Wii Remote in my games too because gamers would be able to choose which controller best suits to them.

Edit - spell corretion.

You have to remember that the internet is the ultimate tool for people to be jackasses, some utliize it more than others.

Be quiet troll.

We're on to your shenanigans.

The hardcore gamer hates Nintendo.

To them Nintendo represents everything wrong with the gaming industry.

They introduced the motion control craze, they have the gimmicky worthless and underpowered Wii, They have nothing but kiddy franchise that can't be taken seriously and no self respectin mature gamer would play.

This is what the Hardcore think of Nintendo. Nintendo is a malignant cancer that is infecting the gaming industry with their vile games. Nintendo is poisen to these people and to play or even acknowledge Nintendo is a crime to gaming. They'll always hate Nintendo because it's the cool thing to do.