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Roma on 05 April 2012
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
Another rumor to add to the fire! This time it's not graphics! It's about the Wii U Tablet itself! Apparently, it seems that the Wii U Tablet will have a Haptic Touchscreen, meaning that you can actually feel different textures such as grass or metal. I say it's a great idea for gaming, espcially puzzle games!
http://mynintendonews.com/2012/04/06/is-haptic-screen-touch-technology-nintendos-secret-weapon-for-wii-u-e3-booth-suggests-so/

If you want a better idea on what it can do, here's a video explaining the technology.

Wow that would be weird but awesome if true!

 

 

Why did I say that in a kids voice in my head 0_o





    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

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oniyide on 05 April 2012
Roma said:
oniyide said:
Roma said:
oniyide said:
HappySqurriel said:
oniyide said:
If these rumors were not true, why would they not just denounce them?? I get that they cant follow every single one, but when asked straight up about it???


If you want to keep the details about something a secret (to unveil it when you want) you can't constantly denounce rumours; because (through the process of elimination) people will find out what you're doing.


They dont have to adress every rumor, I already said they didnt. A simple yes or no, would have sufficed. Otherwise why say anything at all??? They could have just kept their lips sealed until E3

Why not just go with what actual real devs have said?

 

Nintendo has already said the demos were on early devkits so that means they are still working on them and that they would get better results in the final consol otherwise they would not have said “this is on early devkits”




because im reading things from all kinds of devs. some say weaker, some say way powerful, some say a little better, some say the same. Its easy if you have a Ninty bias, you're gonna believe the positive ones, and ignore the negatives and vice versa if your anti-Ninty, but im in the middle so i dont know who to believe.

It’s easy to figure it out man! those that say it is weak still have the old devkits or just don’t know how to use it yet as Nintendo will send the newest versions of the kits to the biggest devs first. You mean to say that the devs that are saying it is much more powerful are lying?  


some of these comments are recent, why would some devs have old devkits and others have newer ones?? that seems strange to me especially now. Im not saying anyone is lying, im just saying im gonna wait till E3 instead of saying ya or nay. It could be possible that Ninty lowered SOME specs to sell the console cheaper, its just a theory dont rip my head off



Viper1 on 05 April 2012
oniyide said:

some of these comments are recent, why would some devs have old devkits and others have newer ones?? that seems strange to me especially now. Im not saying anyone is lying, im just saying im gonna wait till E3 instead of saying ya or nay. It could be possible that Ninty lowered SOME specs to sell the console cheaper, its just a theory dont rip my head off

Happens every single generation with every single new console.

SDK revisions are very limited in number.  1st party obviously gets new revisions first.  Then you dole them out to the developers that are working closest with you.  Followed by those with big, important 3rd party titles.  Finally, if you have any left over, you can hand them out to smaller projects.   But the Wii U has about 5 different SDK's in circulation.   Because SDK revisions are coming so quickly, you invariably end up with many devs still using the earliest kits comapred to some using the latest revisions.

Make sense now?



The rEVOLution is not being televised

KeptoKnight on 05 April 2012
Bossman112 said:
KeptoKnight said:
Bossman112 said:
they are saying Games are more important to them then Graphics which should be something they believe. If they deny this then it kinda gives it away if its more or Even with Current Gen Consoles. They want to surprise everyone at E3 and to be honest why would they wait until E3 to tell us the Wii U is on Par?


To remain unpredictable towards its competitors. I mean look at Kinect and move "out of nowhere."


We knew the Move was coming it was just a matter of when. Seeing the Wii Success MS was going to come out with some sort of Motion Control Device. But it still wouldnt make any sense. MS and Sony are going to make consoles more powerful then the PS3/360 if Nintendo were to wait to tell us that its just on Par then they would make a fool out of themselves and they know that.

1. They bashed at the Wii motion hard at first ask Bill Gates. Until then....

2, They are experienced in the gaming industry. If you think of something,  chances are that they had thought of it long before.  This is Nintendo whom pray before they make plans. I am not being sarcastic there.



Chark on 05 April 2012
zero129 said:
Chark said:
That's such a BS statement, I've heard that countless times from Nintendo fans. I understand that graphics and processing isn't the most important part of games, but they are still an important part. Thousands of games have been made with current and under powered tech but better tech can create better games. Tech always has limitations. Just listening to an interview of the guy making Retro City Rampage. He's making a game based off 80's 8 bit games, but he is able to do a lot more that couldn't be done with 8 bit era tech. Things as simple as certain animations or activity on screen. Same goes for current gen, the complexity of current games AI and on screen interaction far out rule last gen and so on.

What's really going on is Nintendo is creating a 2nd(another) market in gaming by releasing consoles on the low end tech side. Well, controllers aside. Got to hand it to them, interesting business strategy of late.

So says the sony fan. How do you know how pwerful the Wii U is going to be?. It seems to me you know nothing about specs. Just cos Nintendo says they care more about gameplay then  telling people specs means nothing...

You apparently didn't understand what I wrote. The Wii U has already been known to be in a certain realm of technical prowess. The Wii went low tech this gen as well. Tech specs are relatable to gameplay. Greater tech allows for greater animation, AI, complexity in gameplay. I'm not saying its a bad thing not to go cutting edge, and there is plenty more that can be done with lower tech specs. I just feel that statements like those cause people to believe that processing power is not important to gaming and they develop an unrealistic view that by not adapting stronger technical spces that they are achieving better games, or at least games with a stronger emphasis on gameplay. Gameplay is only as good as the work a developer is willing to place into it, and can also be a matter of opinion. Having stronger specs will not limit gameplay, but having weaker specs can potentially do so. Right now our tech is pretty advanced compared to the jumps in power we experienced in older generations. Using less powerful tech is not a large deal anymore and therefore a successful market using older technology can be just as successful as cutting edge markets.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

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Bossman112 on 05 April 2012
KeptoKnight said:
Bossman112 said:
KeptoKnight said:
Bossman112 said:
they are saying Games are more important to them then Graphics which should be something they believe. If they deny this then it kinda gives it away if its more or Even with Current Gen Consoles. They want to surprise everyone at E3 and to be honest why would they wait until E3 to tell us the Wii U is on Par?


To remain unpredictable towards its competitors. I mean look at Kinect and move "out of nowhere."


We knew the Move was coming it was just a matter of when. Seeing the Wii Success MS was going to come out with some sort of Motion Control Device. But it still wouldnt make any sense. MS and Sony are going to make consoles more powerful then the PS3/360 if Nintendo were to wait to tell us that its just on Par then they would make a fool out of themselves and they know that.

1. They bashed at the Wii motion hard at first ask Bill Gates. Until then....

2, They are experienced in the gaming industry. If you think of something,  chances are that they had thought of it long before.  This is Nintendo whom pray before they make plans. I am not being sarcastic there.

i to believe Nintendo has a plan to blow us away at E3. They have been in Gaming for decades now and know what they need to do. I just dont get why rumors like this get so much attention and other Info that is confirmed gets next to nothing



KeptoKnight on 05 April 2012

Some in Society + Some Developers = Love trolling.



crissindahouse on 05 April 2012
mike_intellivision said:
It is funny how all of this is coming from sources in Europe which tend to overly emphasize technology specs.

Mike from Morgantown


we love playing on pc in many european countries maybe this is the reason our european sites talk a lot about the specs as well. we are used to talk about the specs here^^



archbrix on 05 April 2012
darkknightkryta said

None of those links officially say anything.  The GPU rumblings are still hearsay and IBM has said they're using the Watson's cpu, which is indeed the Power 7s.  But then again Intel said they were putting Pentiums in the original Xbox and we know how that all ended up.  Those were just the first two and if it they weren't from endgadget I would have dismissed them right away.  What I will dismiss is Wikipedia and IGN.

The Engadget links are official:  It doesn't get much more official than confirmation from IBM themselves.  And it's pretty common knowledge that the GPU is from the R700 series.

The fact that you choose to dismiss the Wikipedia and IGN links is irrelevant, as they just mirror what is stated in the other links anyway, which is reality.



darkknightkryta on 05 April 2012
archbrix said:
darkknightkryta said

None of those links officially say anything.  The GPU rumblings are still hearsay and IBM has said they're using the Watson's cpu, which is indeed the Power 7s.  But then again Intel said they were putting Pentiums in the original Xbox and we know how that all ended up.  Those were just the first two and if it they weren't from endgadget I would have dismissed them right away.  What I will dismiss is Wikipedia and IGN.

The Engadget links are official:  It doesn't get much more official than confirmation from IBM themselves.  And it's pretty common knowledge that the GPU is from the R700 series.

The fact that you choose to dismiss the Wikipedia and IGN links is irrelevant, as they just mirror what is stated in the other links anyway, which is reality.

Yes, IBM hinted at the CPU, I agreed with that, though it's probably been tinkered a lot.  Could be something in between Power 7 and 8, can be something in between Power 6 and 7.  And "common" knowledge hasn't come out of anyone's mouth, it's all hearsay and rumblings, just like how the Vita was supposed to be using the Tegra.