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arcane_chaos said:
Xen said:
arcane_chaos said:

how to make this right? announce:
Suikoden VI
Persona 4
Wild Arms 6
another .hack/ series
Grandia IV
Shadow Hearts 4
rogue galaxy 2
KINGDOM HEARTS 3
Resident evil 6(I don't consider RE: racoon city to be 6)
some more "Tales of" games in the west
remaster JP PS2 HD collection games (well for Sony)

well...that's would I like to see =)

Yup, I'd also like to believe that Persona 4 never came out. That game disappointed me more than any other game, EVER.


lol, i meant 5

and actually I enjoyed it

Prefer Persona 3 (FES) though and you forgot,  Tales of vesperia 2, new chrono game, Lost Odyssey sequel, skies of arcadia 2



 

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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Lostplanet22 said:
brendude13 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
brendude13 said:
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
Remove nintendo and what has Japan given interesting or innovative? Not much.


Give me a whole bunch of Western devs then, who have given interesting and innovative games. Please.

Haha, thanks, you beat me to it.

Mirror's edge, Borderlands, scribblenauts, Little big Planet, Call of duty MW, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Left4Dead, Portal, Red Dead redemption, Heavy Rain, L.A. Noire, Rockband?, (Crackdown/Prototype/infamous), Splosion man,Prey, Flower Braid, super meat boy?,Outland, Limbo, Trials HD, Skate, Dirt3, Peggle, divinity 2, (Gears of war 2 horde mode/halo firefight) harm's way, , Lara croft GoL, SplinterCellConvictioin, Alan wake, and a lot of others...

Some of them introduced stuff that is mindblowing others will be hardly noticed...



I feel kind of sorry for you that you looked up all of those games just to make that list, it's obvious you didn't think of those off the top of your head.

 

No worries, I also feel kind of sorry for those fools who are totally into a gamefranchise that is known for 10 minutes of gameplay and 30 minutes of cutscenes that exist out of a horrible story who then call themself gamers and use the maincharacter as an avatar and dare to lecture other people what interesting games are...  And the best of all are currently playing not one;..But two Call of duty games!!!!

Hilarous!!


can you make another list for that? a list about games known for : "10 minutes of gameplay and 30 minutes of cutscenes that exist out of a horrible story"

i am sure only japanese games are like that rofl

 

...  It was pretty obvious I was talking about Metal Gear Solid...  but ok if you want a list:

Metal gear solid (PS)
Metal gear solid: Twin Snakes (GCN)
Metal Gear solid 2 (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 3 (PS2)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3)



 

brendude13 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
brendude13 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
brendude13 said:
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
Remove nintendo and what has Japan given interesting or innovative? Not much.


Give me a whole bunch of Western devs then, who have given interesting and innovative games. Please.

Haha, thanks, you beat me to it.

Mirror's edge, Borderlands, scribblenauts, Little big Planet, Call of duty MW, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Left4Dead, Portal, Red Dead redemption, Heavy Rain, L.A. Noire, Rockband?, (Crackdown/Prototype/infamous), Splosion man,Prey, Flower Braid, super meat boy?,Outland, Limbo, Trials HD, Skate, Dirt3, Peggle, divinity 2, (Gears of war 2 horde mode/halo firefight) harm's way, , Lara croft GoL, SplinterCellConvictioin, Alan wake, and a lot of others...

Some of them introduced stuff that is mindblowing others will be hardly noticed...



I feel kind of sorry for you that you looked up all of those games just to make that list, it's obvious you didn't think of those off the top of your head.

 

No worries, I also feel kind of sorry for those fools who are totally into a gamefranchise that is known for 10 minutes of gameplay and 30 minutes of cutscenes that exist out of a horrible story who then call themself gamers and use the maincharacter as an avatar and dare to lecture other people what interesting games are...  And the best of all are currently playing not one;..But two Call of duty games!!!!

Hilarous!!

...?

Make fun of Metal Gear Solid all you want, but it is still hailed as one of the greatest game series of all time, I don't see your problem with it. There is more gameplay time than there are cutscenes, cutscenes just strengthen the story, a story that SHALLOW minds cannot appreciate. You might not like the story, but the point is, this game actually has a damn story unlike 90% of the Western games you mentioned.

Once again, I don't see a problem with using Solid Snake as my avatar, he is far more interesting and fleshed out than any character in any Western game you can name. Why am I not allowed to use a video game character as my avatar? Am I doing something wrong?

And once again, I don't see a problem with me playing one or even two Call of Duty games.

Stop flaming, and treat more people with respect. Stop using the most irrelevant points as an excuse to be a dick to me.

Why I didn't highlight the word interest? Because I know someone would come in and say almost none games are interesting..Just like you would make a top 10 list and everyone will bitch that it sucks because it has not their favourite game in it.....And if everything is over their will be 75 games mentioned in the thread that are not in your top ten list and that is why it sucks...

And you exactly did it, so I turned it around and talked about your current avatar and currently playing games;..was kind of easy btw and it looks like you didn't like it :)   so why do it with the games I like even when some of them also are hailed for being one of the best games?

a story that SHALLOW minds cannot appreciate + And treat more people with respect....                    >_>....



 

Lostplanet22 said:
arcane_chaos said:
Xen said:
arcane_chaos said:

how to make this right? announce:
Suikoden VI
Persona 4
Wild Arms 6
another .hack/ series
Grandia IV
Shadow Hearts 4
rogue galaxy 2
KINGDOM HEARTS 3
Resident evil 6(I don't consider RE: racoon city to be 6)
some more "Tales of" games in the west
remaster JP PS2 HD collection games (well for Sony)

well...that's would I like to see =)

Yup, I'd also like to believe that Persona 4 never came out. That game disappointed me more than any other game, EVER.


lol, i meant 5

and actually I enjoyed it

Prefer Persona 3 (FES) though and you forgot,  Tales of vesperia 2, new chrono game, Lost Odyssey sequel, skies of arcadia 2


yeah, I prefer P3(FES) as well(though I still haven't beat "the answer") but P4 really improved on the battle system

I do agree with you on a ToV 2 and Lost Odessey. have only played chrono trigger and never played skies of arcadia(though i did here some talk about it though)



Lostplanet22 said:
arcane_chaos said:
Xen said:
arcane_chaos said:

how to make this right? announce:
Suikoden VI
Persona 4
Wild Arms 6
another .hack/ series
Grandia IV
Shadow Hearts 4
rogue galaxy 2
KINGDOM HEARTS 3
Resident evil 6(I don't consider RE: racoon city to be 6)
some more "Tales of" games in the west
remaster JP PS2 HD collection games (well for Sony)

well...that's would I like to see =)

Yup, I'd also like to believe that Persona 4 never came out. That game disappointed me more than any other game, EVER.


lol, i meant 5

and actually I enjoyed it

Prefer Persona 3 (FES) though and you forgot,  Tales of vesperia 2, new chrono game, Lost Odyssey sequel, skies of arcadia 2

Arcane Chaos and yourself... GET PERSONA 3 PORTABLE!

It mixes the finest from both games - P3's story and atmosphere, and P4's battle system. Plus, Female MC!

I love to see people preferring P3FES here, though. It blows my mind when I hear that people prefer 4. Every single time.



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Lostplanet22 said:
brendude13 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
brendude13 said:
Lostplanet22 said:
brendude13 said:
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
Remove nintendo and what has Japan given interesting or innovative? Not much.


Give me a whole bunch of Western devs then, who have given interesting and innovative games. Please.

Haha, thanks, you beat me to it.

Mirror's edge, Borderlands, scribblenauts, Little big Planet, Call of duty MW, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Left4Dead, Portal, Red Dead redemption, Heavy Rain, L.A. Noire, Rockband?, (Crackdown/Prototype/infamous), Splosion man,Prey, Flower Braid, super meat boy?,Outland, Limbo, Trials HD, Skate, Dirt3, Peggle, divinity 2, (Gears of war 2 horde mode/halo firefight) harm's way, , Lara croft GoL, SplinterCellConvictioin, Alan wake, and a lot of others...

Some of them introduced stuff that is mindblowing others will be hardly noticed...



I feel kind of sorry for you that you looked up all of those games just to make that list, it's obvious you didn't think of those off the top of your head.

 

No worries, I also feel kind of sorry for those fools who are totally into a gamefranchise that is known for 10 minutes of gameplay and 30 minutes of cutscenes that exist out of a horrible story who then call themself gamers and use the maincharacter as an avatar and dare to lecture other people what interesting games are...  And the best of all are currently playing not one;..But two Call of duty games!!!!

Hilarous!!

...?

Make fun of Metal Gear Solid all you want, but it is still hailed as one of the greatest game series of all time, I don't see your problem with it. There is more gameplay time than there are cutscenes, cutscenes just strengthen the story, a story that SHALLOW minds cannot appreciate. You might not like the story, but the point is, this game actually has a damn story unlike 90% of the Western games you mentioned.

Once again, I don't see a problem with using Solid Snake as my avatar, he is far more interesting and fleshed out than any character in any Western game you can name. Why am I not allowed to use a video game character as my avatar? Am I doing something wrong?

And once again, I don't see a problem with me playing one or even two Call of Duty games.

Stop flaming, and treat more people with respect. Stop using the most irrelevant points as an excuse to be a dick to me.

Why I didn't highlight the word interest? Because I know someone would come in and say almost none games are interesting..Just like you would make a top 10 list and everyone will bitch that it sucks because it has not their favourite game in it.....And if everything is over their will be 75 games mentioned in the thread that are not in your top ten list and that is why it sucks...

And you exactly did it, so I turned it around and talked about your current avatar and currently playing games;..was kind of easy btw and it looks like you didn't like it :)   so why do it with the games I like even when some of them also are hailed for being one of the best games?

a story that SHALLOW minds cannot appreciate + And treat more people with respect....                    >_>....

I sort of agree with this point tbh. i mean its not just MGS, but other PS3 J games suffer from an inappropriate allocation of cutscene to gameplay ratio. if we look at games that have done really well from Japan - we see games like Monster Hunter, Dragon Quest 9, or Wii games like Mario Galaxy.

and i think theres a very good reason for that - simply because those games are focusing a lot more on gameplay with very little story or cutscenes. and that gameplay dosent change - its cutscene or gameplay. if we look at something like inFamous or Grand Theft Auto 4 a good amount of character interation takes place on the cell phone and not during a cutscene. i think this was a really good idea because relationships develop while you can also play the game - you dont have to stop and watch a cutscene.

i mean if we look at a game like Devil May Cry 4, yes sure the gameplay was considered good. but the amount of cutscenes in the game. do you really need a cutscene with some trash talk 5 or 6 times during 1 mission. look at God of War the cutscenes are condensed into only about 20 mins in the whole game. the rest of the story takes place interactively.

i think FF13 has been the worst offender. the developers spent 5 years redering 6 hours of cutscenes, and we were left with limited gameplay options. and in some cases a complete departure from RPG staples to maintain the quality of cutscenes.



How many times must these threads devolve into east V.S. west? Really this isn't going to end well because everyone has different tastes.

Plus... that wasn't the point of the OP, it was merely a lamentation about the shifts of the industry. And... I am glad that I am not the only one who sees the irony and stupidity of an SE exec lamenting a lack of Japanese games when his own company could have changed that issue.

This is the kind of crap you just can't make up.



Xen said:
arcane_chaos said:

how to make this right? announce:
Suikoden VI
Persona 4
Wild Arms 6
another .hack/ series
Grandia IV
Shadow Hearts 4
rogue galaxy 2
KINGDOM HEARTS 3
Resident evil 6(I don't consider RE: racoon city to be 6)
some more "Tales of" games in the west
remaster JP PS2 HD collection games (well for Sony)

well...that's would I like to see =)

Yup, I'd also like to believe that Persona 4 never came out. That game disappointed me more than any other game, EVER.


WHAT?! BLASPHEMY!!!!!!

Persona4 was a far superior game to 3 game wise and the characters were also alot better and or memerable. I think I like P3's ending better but that doesn't make up for the game's other hitches. Regardless they are all great games.



      

      

      

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forevercloud3000 said:
Xen said:
arcane_chaos said:

how to make this right? announce:
Suikoden VI
Persona 4
Wild Arms 6
another .hack/ series
Grandia IV
Shadow Hearts 4
rogue galaxy 2
KINGDOM HEARTS 3
Resident evil 6(I don't consider RE: racoon city to be 6)
some more "Tales of" games in the west
remaster JP PS2 HD collection games (well for Sony)

well...that's would I like to see =)

Yup, I'd also like to believe that Persona 4 never came out. That game disappointed me more than any other game, EVER.


WHAT?! BLASPHEMY!!!!!!

Persona4 was a far superior game to 3 game wise and the characters were also alot better and or memerable. I think I like P3's ending better but that doesn't make up for the game's other hitches. Regardless they are all great games.

No disrespect, but ROFL.

Especially at the "better characters" part. C'mon.



I blame bamco.



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