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okr said:
Doobie_wop said:
okr said:
Doobie_wop said:

Nintendo doesn't like giving choices to their consumers. 

Choice? As far as I know I don't have the choice to disable trophies on my PS3 or achievements on my 360 (if I could I'd do it).

You have the choice to ignore them or use them to your benefit.

You have two options to choose from, Nintendo give you none.

No, you can't really ignore them. Also: Ignoring is not a choice provided by the console manufacturers, it's a choice in people's mind. Disabling achievements/trophies on the other hand is an option not provided by Microsoft/Sony within the system. The only way to actually disable them is having your console constantly offline as far as I know.

Benefit? Only if you consider an increasing number as a benefit.

BTW: With the 3DS Nintendo plans to give people an actual option which in my opinion is even more devious than achievements/trophies: 3DS coins, which are used to unlock free content (if I understood the concept correctly).

I'm not a fan of any of these ideas (achievements/trophies/3DS coins), but on the 3DS at least I seem to have the actual option to never use it, not just to try to ignore it.

On the 360 at least you can turn off the achievement notification. So no pop ups during playing the game.



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I will tell you if Nintendo implemented some sore of achievement system into the wii or 3ds, I would buy them immediately. Without them, then I will have to think about it more. Simple.

It might seem silly to some, but achievements do make games better. I am replaying games several times over and experiencing a much richer experience than I ever would have without them.

If Nintendo believes what they do then there is a way for their achievment system to evolve beyond the others. Its up to Nintendo to figure out how specifically, but if they dont include some sort of trophy system in the wii 2, I think it is a huge mis- step.



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 If Sony put trophies in the PSP2, Nintendo just lost a sale.

 It kind of saddens me that that is my mentality, but both me and a friend were saying that is exactly how we feel and exactly what we're going to be looking out for on this supposed 27th Jan PSP2 reveal. 

 I don't even honestly understand it or why, but they've infected me in a way that has now affected my gaming purchases and playing trends lol. There's just something about knowing that when you get that platinum, you've done everything with the game and know you've completed it fully, or something. It's a really backwards step not offering something which is really become common place.

 I don't get this idea that it can 'interfere' with the game either, you can turn notifications off. Then you don't see them, sure they exsist, but there is absolutely no way whatsoever they interefere with that gameplay experience. 



Barozi said:
okr said:

On the 360 at least you can turn off the achievement notification. So no pop ups during playing the game.

Okay, danke. I didn't know that this is possible. I'll turn off the achievement notification.



sounds like bs



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I freaking HATE it when I play games on my PS3 or 360  when that damn trophies/achievement crap pops up in front of me.



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I like achievements, and as long as they implement them in a way that you actually unlock something with them, or unluck them by getting some sort of extra, like artwork, more costumes or you name it, they could work on any system.

Someone mentioned lords of shadow, the achievements on that game were good, because in order to get them you just had to find everything in the game, and that required exploring the game, purchasing the beautiful artwork ( this is one of the reasons i love the game), completing trials on each stage.... those seem like good challenges for all players, and that´s what i did in, for example,on every zelda game i´ve played so far, and if they could come up with a way to get something more out of unlocking them, like avatar stuff or whatever, the better, and not just be some "do this ridiculous thing for no reason" type thing.

I hope i made my point clear =).



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Naum said:

I freaking HATE it when I play games on my PS3 or 360  when that damn trophies/achievement crap pops up in front of me.


Wow, i almost cannot believe it. It doesn't do anything. And its only for less than a second 0_0



The worst thing that ever happened was Sony saying AMEN to this ridiculous feature, now it's considered standard.



Achievements are:

1. Easy to implement

2. Add for some people, deduct for none

Therefore, there's no harm in implementing; people who don't like them, just won't bother with them (might as well offer an option to hide them?). People that like them (myself included) will be glad.