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Sakurai may be taking a well-deserved and hopefully long rest from Smash Bros., but that hasn't stopped many people, myself included, from speculating where Smash Bros. goes from here, especially regarding who gets to be playable. Problem is Smash has so many playable characters now, and then there's licensing from third parties, that the next Smash Bros. may not be able to have as big of a roster or as big of a roster without having to make some cuts. So here are my personal choices for who'd be cut, and who they'd be replaced with.

Cut Bayonetta.

Replace with Shantae.

Cut Hero.

Replace with Zero (Yes, I did that on purpose).

Cut Steve.

Replace with Waluigi.

Cut Sora (Go fuck yourself, Disney).

Replace with Isaac.

Cut Terry.

Replace with Dixie Kong.

Cut Kazuya (*burns Tekken arcade cabinet with cheap beer*)

Replace with Black Shadow.

Cut Cloud.

Replace with Urbosa.

Cut Sephiroth.

Replace with Ghirahim.

Cut Joker.

Replace with Dr. Eggman (I still prefer to call him Robotnik).

Honestly I'd be kinda reluctant to make some of the cuts I listed, but at the same time I don't think we'd be able to do Super Smash Bros. Ultimate's exact roster in the next game, so for replacement characters I picked characters that I figured would be less of a licensing hassle to bring along.

I apologize to anyone who's upset by the cuts I listed (except to whoever wanted Sora, Joker, Bayonetta, Hero, Steve, Terry or Kazuya), and just to be fair, go ahead and list characters you'd cut and who you'd replace them with.

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Sounds like you have something against SE since you cut all of their characters. Well if we're going the controversial route then I would replace a large portion of Nintendo characters with either a Square Enix or other third party character, because I already play Cloud, Sephy, and Sora a LOT more than them :). It would be nice to play as characters in the uncanny valley section more than the pure mascot section: 2B, A2, Kaine, Lara Croft, Crono, Elly, Fei Fong Wong, Noctis, Lightning, Zidane, Squall, Tifa, Aerith, Barret(not the Mii versions of them lol) would end up replacing a lot of them.

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Wouldn't make much sense with most of them for Nintendo. Who's Black Shadow?

Fuck this topic. Waluigi DESERVES DEATH! Fucking the worst thing to ever come from Nintendo. Keep Bayonetta and Joker FOREVER! How do I downvote topics and when can I be a mod to ban this person for this topic? I will have the Government ban their internet for life.

Last edited by Leynos - on 27 November 2021

Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Waluigi? We need less Mario characters not more. Why not cut some Fire Emblem Reps while we're at it.

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Your list is bad, and you should feel bad.

I actually hope Ultimate is the final Smash of Phase 1, if you will, and that the next Smash is a long way away and revolutionizes the genre with many new features, modes, better online, story, etc. Because of this, and to make it really feel like a phase 2 rather than just another Smash sequel, I hope that they eliminate all characters from games not available on Switch (Nintendo or third party) or the next device. I want the roster to feel next gen just as much as the features. Cut everything pre-Switch unless they are making a game for it in Switch 2, then freely release said character around launch of their new game to hype it up alongside Smash. Let Ultimate be the end of Super Smash Bros. Let the next game be the beginning of Ultra Instinct Smash Bros.

"Cut Bayonetta" - Not gonna happen. She's damn near 1st party at this point. As close as you could get without Nintendo outright owning the IP. She and Sonic are the only two 3rd party characters I think are completely safe. 

"Replace with Shantae" - This is even less likely. I would love to see Shantae get a spot on the roster, but if she's gonna take someone's spot, it ain't gonna be Bayonetta's.


"Cut Hero" - Japan would like a word with you.

"Replace with Zero" - They're not gonna do that when we already have Mega Man as the ideal rep. They're just going to keep him as an Assist Trophy and a Mii Fighter costume.


"Cut Steve" - Oh good luck with that one. Given how big Minecraft is and how big of a deal his inclusion was, I think there's a bigger chance he stays than goes.

"Replace with Waluigi" - FUCK NO! FFS, what is people's infatuation with Waluigi?!? He's a useless sack of crap! I'd rather see Captain Toad get in over Waluigi, at least he does something!


"Cut Sora" - This is one of the few I agree with. Nothing against Sora as a fighter or character, I like him just fine. But given the shit Nintendo and Sakurai had to go through with Disney just to get him in, I'm thinking that this is a "one and done" type deal. Sorry, Sora fans.

"Replace with Isaac" - Only way I see that happening is if they are making a new GoldenSun game, which I highly doubt. If anything, this would be the spot that Shantae would take in order to get into Smash. 


"Cut Terry"

"Replace with Dixie Kong"

Sure why not.


"Cut Kazuya"

"Replace with Black Shadow"

Who? OH YEAH, that dude from F-Zero. Yeah, much like GoldenSun, the only way that happens is if they make a new F-Zero game, which the chances of that happening are next to none.


"Cut Cloud"

"Replace with Urbosa"



"Cut Sephiroth"

"Replace with Ghirahim"

You got something against Square Enix or something?



"Replace with Dr. Eggman" - Give him Waluigi's invitation if you want him in that bad! But you leave Joker ALONE!!!!

I agree with most of those cuts. I think Smash 6 should cut most of the third-party characters, some of the Fire Emblem characters, some Pokemon plus characters that are obscure or jokes like Duck Hunt, ROB, Wii Fit Trainer, and Pirahna Plant.
Basically, I want the next Smash to have about 90 or more characters by cutting about 15-20 characters (at least), but adding about that much as well. There are some fighters that you could probably turn into echoes as well, like perhaps combining the younger Links.

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