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Global Hardware 27 July 2019

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OTBWY said:
Replicant said:

Both Switch and PS4 are selling great.

Why are you guys upset that people are happy with PS4's numbers? If you really hate PlayStation that much can't you just celebrate the Switch numbers. What you're doing seems odd.

What I think is rather odd is that people in here pretend the Switch doesn't exist when it has obviously come out on top. Don't find it odd telling the truth about it though. I don't think it's offensive either.

And yes, they are both selling great.

And its talk or thinking like this that has made me cut back on how much I post in the forum. Blatant disregard of people going with what they want or like.

Like think about it, does it really matter? Now I didn't come into this thread saying anything about the PS4 doing so well and what not cause I don't personally believe there is anything to celebrate with the PS4 coming second. But that doesn't mean I can't see why people will be impressed by its current performance all things considering. 

What you guys need to accept, is that everyone has a bias. The only time that gets bad is when your bias makes you not respect or at least see the position of others. You guys have a Nintendo Bias, the guys happy about the PS4 performance may have a Playstation bias. Nothing wrong with any of that. This shit gets ugly when your Nintendo bias makes you unhappy that the PS guys are happy about something.



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Intrinsic said:
OTBWY said:

What I think is rather odd is that people in here pretend the Switch doesn't exist when it has obviously come out on top. Don't find it odd telling the truth about it though. I don't think it's offensive either.

And yes, they are both selling great.

And its talk or thinking like this that has made me cut back on how much I post in the forum. Blatant disregard of people going with what they want or like.

Like think about it, does it really matter? Now I didn't come into this thread saying anything about the PS4 doing so well and what not cause I don't personally believe there is anything to celebrate with the PS4 coming second. But that doesn't mean I can't see why people will be impressed by its current performance all things considering. 

What you guys need to accept, is that everyone has a bias. The only time that gets bad is when your bias makes you not respect or at least see the position of others. You guys have a Nintendo Bias, the guys happy about the PS4 performance may have a Playstation bias. Nothing wrong with any of that. This shit gets ugly when your Nintendo bias makes you unhappy that the PS guys are happy about something.

You can equally apply that to any group here.  Further, it gets uglier when one group resorts to an unrelated topic in an attempt to diminish information within the primary topic.

Primary Topic: Hardware sales for this week.
Group 1: Console A wins this week.
Group 2: Yeah, but Console B is best selling for the year (different topic meant to diminish statistical fact of primary topic) and lifetime (different topic meant to diminish statistical fact of primary topic).

If you want to talk and celebrate Console B's yearly or lifetime performance, go make a thread about it instead of making subtle instigations.

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SpokenTruth said:

You can equally apply that to any group here.  Further, it gets uglier when one group resorts to an unrelated topic in an attempt to diminish information within the primary topic.

Primary Topic: Hardware sales for this week.
Group 1: Console A wins this week.
Group 2: Yeah, but Console B is best selling for the year (different topic meant to diminish statistical fact of primary topic) and lifetime (different topic meant to diminish statistical fact of primary topic).

If you want to talk and celebrate Console B's yearly or lifetime performance, go make a thread about it instead of making subtle instigations.

You don't think how old a console is has any effect on it's week by week sales? I'd say it's relevant context that does make PS4 sales look more impressive than the raw numbers alone. Yearly and lifetime sales are determined by weekly sales, so those are fair talking points as well. In order for Switch to overtake PS4 it's gonna need to lead each week by a greater margin than it is currently.



How much is the PS4 outselling the Switch by globally this year?



Lonely_Dolphin said:
SpokenTruth said:

You can equally apply that to any group here.  Further, it gets uglier when one group resorts to an unrelated topic in an attempt to diminish information within the primary topic.

Primary Topic: Hardware sales for this week.
Group 1: Console A wins this week.
Group 2: Yeah, but Console B is best selling for the year (different topic meant to diminish statistical fact of primary topic) and lifetime (different topic meant to diminish statistical fact of primary topic).

If you want to talk and celebrate Console B's yearly or lifetime performance, go make a thread about it instead of making subtle instigations.

You don't think how old a console is has any effect on it's week by week sales? I'd say it's relevant context that does make PS4 sales look more impressive than the raw numbers alone. Yearly and lifetime sales are determined by weekly sales, so those are fair talking points as well. In order for Switch to overtake PS4 it's gonna need to lead each week by a greater margin than it is currently.

No console starts off selling great and it goes downhill from there. PS4 is something past the peak, Switch is before the peak.



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Lonely_Dolphin said:
SpokenTruth said:

You can equally apply that to any group here.  Further, it gets uglier when one group resorts to an unrelated topic in an attempt to diminish information within the primary topic.

Primary Topic: Hardware sales for this week.
Group 1: Console A wins this week.
Group 2: Yeah, but Console B is best selling for the year (different topic meant to diminish statistical fact of primary topic) and lifetime (different topic meant to diminish statistical fact of primary topic).

If you want to talk and celebrate Console B's yearly or lifetime performance, go make a thread about it instead of making subtle instigations.

You don't think how old a console is has any effect on it's week by week sales? I'd say it's relevant context that does make PS4 sales look more impressive than the raw numbers alone. Yearly and lifetime sales are determined by weekly sales, so those are fair talking points as well. In order for Switch to overtake PS4 it's gonna need to lead each week by a greater margin than it is currently.

*sigh* You not only completely missed my point but did exactly what I just talked about.

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
How much is the PS4 outselling the Switch by globally this year?

PS4: 6,823,125

Switch: 6,722,412



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Pinkie_pie said:
curl-6 said:

*Switch wins the week*

Every comment: ZOMG, PS4 domination!

You sound really sad. Ps4 in its 6th year still selling as well as a supply constrained Switch that will soon get not one, but two successors that everybody is waiting for. If that's not domination i dont know what is.

Corrected and added the context you failed to mention or acknowledge.

Given the context, it looks like you really don't. After all, the Switch was selling about 40-50k more each week until the announcement of Switch lite and upgraded base model already, but everybody who is saying that the PS4 is dominating is treating the Switch like those sub 200k are normal sales for the console while they really aren't. And even then, it still stays on top.

In other words, the PS4 couldn't even beat a supply-constrained console which is getting two replacements about 1 and two months from that date. That's not domination, that's clearly showing it's age and that it's way past it's zenith.

On the other hand, for a six year old console, it's truly doing great - it just can't keep up with the Switch anymore under normal conditions.

Edit: Whoops, didn't see the thread warning, sorry!

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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
How much is the PS4 outselling the Switch by globally this year?

According to this graph:

  • PS4: 6,816,525
  • NS: 6,731,912

So, less than 100K.



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Random_Matt said:
Shiken said:

Riiiiiiight, because basing HW sales off of ONE DAY, right before a confirmed revision of the base model with higher battery life lands on shelves is super telling!  🙄

I am much more interested to see sales with Fire Emblem being out for a full week, and when the newer model is out.

Yet it is flying off shelves everywhere.  Nice try bud!

? There is no argument here, name one which has sold a few million. This is no attack by the way, there are niche titles on all platforms.

True, apart from the two 3DS games (which both sold around 2M), none has cracked the 1 million mark.

However, it looks like it has finally arrived in the West, as it does truly well on Amazon (and was sold out there for about a week or so) and ain't dropping down (currently on the 11th spot on Amazon US). I'd say FE3H will outsell the two 3DS titles with ease, possibly even combined! At that point, we're at about 4M+. Would that still sound niche to you?

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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Pinkie_pie said:

You sound really sad. Ps4 in its 6th year still selling as well as a supply constrained Switch that will soon get not one, but two successors that everybody is waiting for. If that's not domination i dont know what is.

Corrected and added the context you failed to mention or acknowledge.

Given the context, it looks like you really don't. After all, the Switch was selling about 40-50k more each week until the announcement of Switch lite and upgraded base model already, but everybody who is saying that the PS4 is dominating is treating the Switch like those sub 200k are normal sales for the console while they really aren't. And even then, it still stays on top.

In other words, the PS4 couldn't even beat a supply-constrained console which is getting two replacements about 1 and two months from that date. That's not domination, that's clearly showing it's age and that it's way past it's zenith.

On the other hand, for a six year old console, it's truly doing great - it just can't keep up with the Switch anymore under normal conditions.

Edit: Whoops, didn't see the thread warning, sorry!

There was no supply constraint. Ps4 even outselling the switch this year before the two successors announcement. Total domination for a console in its 6th year. A 6 year old nintendo system had never and will never sell as well as the ps4 in its 6th year