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There are a handful of people that are beating the VR drum so hard that they are not hearing what other people are saying. I am interested in VR but these people are so adamant about VR that they are almost turning me off from it.

If someone doesn't care for VR or share their views that VR is the end all be all of video games then it sometimes goes like this:

A) You're lying and haven't actually played VR

B) Well if you have played VR and aren't lying then you must have been playing on a cheap set-up

C) If you aren't lying, are using a good set-up, and still don't like it then you haven't been playing the right games

D) If you aren't lying, are using a good set-up, are playing the right games and still don't like it then... you MUST be lying

I just don't quite get why some people cannot accept others opinions on this subject. I think VR has wonderful potential and that tech is right on the edge of being ready for it (unlike the time of the Virtual Boy - which I did get to play when it came out). i hope too that it gets adopted more quickly so that more resources get dumped in to flesh out the experience BUT I understand it is not for everybody nor will it be for everybody.


What am I missing here, am I just being successfully trolled by these people, is there some disconnect in their logic that keeps them from understanding not everyone is going to like what they like, is it something else entirely?

Edit

Do you think it is mostly just that some love it so much they want to push others into trying it thinking they will love it too?

This is just a general discussion now, lets not single out other community members but feel free to express your own support of the platform or reservations of the same.

Last edited by The_Yoda - on 25 January 2018

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I can't speak for everyone but the way I see it is like going watching Matrix for the first time. For many it blew away their senses and it went beyond their elevations. These people felt the need to share their enthusiasm and discovery with others. Obviously not everyone will feel that way.



Because psychology.

When you spend boat loads of money on something, it serves a psychological purpose for that thing to succeed in your mind because it says "I'm a smart person and make smart decisions."



twintail said:
I could hurl this argument at literally anything.

Aka don't be so upset some ppl are acting as elitists.

True, I've seen it from other bases before. There has been a lot of talk on here about VR lately and I was hoping for some feedback from other users about why they champion it or deride it.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Because psychology.

When you spend boat loads of money on something, it serves a psychological purpose for that thing to succeed in your mind because it says "I'm a smart person and make smart decisions."

I can see that, but I guess I just try not to do that myself.  If I buy into something and it doesn't meet my expectations I'll warn others away.  

Using your explanation though wouldn't the overwhelming amount of reviews for larger ticket items be good? Do you think this only applies to big ticket items or that the same psychological processes come into play on cheaper items? 



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You've been long enough on this forum, you should've learned the concept of a "fanboy" by now. This thread is inexcusable.



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The_Yoda said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
Because psychology.

When you spend boat loads of money on something, it serves a psychological purpose for that thing to succeed in your mind because it says "I'm a smart person and make smart decisions."

I can see that, but I guess I just try not to do that myself.  If I buy into something and it doesn't meet my expectations I'll warn others away.  

Using your explanation though wouldn't the overwhelming amount of reviews for larger ticket items be good? Do you think this only applies to big ticket items or that the same psychological processes come into play on cheaper items? 

Oh I absolutely KNOW it applies to cheaper things. I see it all the time, daily. It happens online, in the real world, everywhere. To openly accept that you were wrong seems to be one of the hardest things people can do. It's probably one the rarest qualities a human being can exhibit and I really don't know why. I think it must have something to do with early childhood and being shamed by either your parents or peers. Maybe even both. Whatever it is, it's real... very real. 



There are people like that about basically everything, especially in gaming. If I look hard enough, I'm sure I can find a Virtual Boy fanatic. :p



I'll give you my reason/s.

VR allows you to expereince anything you have ever wanted, and many things are not currently possible, or are flat out fantasy.

VR allows you to do go anywhere you want, in any setting, at any time, in any conditions, and do anything you want to do right from your home.

VR allows you to teleport to the same space as your friends or family, allowing you to share expereinces as if you are physically in the same place together.

Everything I have ever done, everything I have ever seen, and everything I have ever dreamed are all the reasons why I am a champion for VR.


Now, are we there yet?
-No, none of the current VR setups fully deliver that, and the content is not their yet.

Do I expect 100's of millions to flock to current VR?
-No, current VR is not ready for everyone.

Do I think everyone should be excited about the future of VR?
-Your got damn right I do. I can not fathom how anyone with a pulse would not want their own personal portal to go anywhere, and do or become anything they have ever wanted to do or become.

Do I think Next Gen VR will be ready for mainstream?
-Absolutely. Next gen VR combine with the talent of world class development teams like Rockstar, CD Project Red, Naughty Dog, Guerrilla Games, Polyphony Digital, and others, will deliver expereinces that anyone will be able to hook up and teleport into.

Do I expect major corporations like Sony, Microsoft, Google, Apple, Take Two, and others to put massive resources into VR, and move major products to VR Only or VR Capable?
-Without a doubt. VR is the future of every industry, because as I said above VR is everything. VR shopping, VR Sporting Events, VR Social Events, VR Work, VR School, and VR Gaming will all be trillion dollar indursties.



I think a lot of the arguments going on around here stem from specifically the gaming side. VR is much, much, bigger than just games. As I said, VR is everything. Everything that is real, and everything that is fake. I don't believe anyone could honestly say that VR as a whole is not going to be absolutely massive going forward.



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I remember playing a VR game in the 90s and it was FP. I had a gun and shot things. I could pick some stuff up and throw it. Modern VR has better graphics and tech but there is a lot out there that outside of better visuals but still poor isn't a whole lot different from what I wore on my head in 1995 vs 2017. VR does have more variety to it now overall but a lot of these FP games are hey look at the things I can pick up and shoot and throw in often (again not always) very basic 3D graphics..almost like a cheap Steam game. The games that offer more variety and good fidelity visuals seem few are far between. VR just seems like the Wii in many ways. Promising concept but ultimately limited in what you can make for it and most devs release shovelware.
Games not in FP are just 3D(like Lucky's Tale), not VR. So just better looking 3DS games and I never use the 3D on 3DS. At least it's not red and black Game Boy games.

 

I will lastly say this. The thing I laugh at most when people say VR is the future. VR has been "the future" for over 30 years and it's always been niche. It always will be as long as it's pricey, makes people sick and requires a bulky headset to make you sweat and a large space to move around in. (not so great for us APT dwellers, one reason Kinect failed)

Last edited by SegataSanshiro - on 25 January 2018