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2018 is another comfortable victory on that front



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Pretty much all the diehard Xbox fans that are desperate to try and cope. Problem is, even if only multiplats matter, they still sell significantly better on PS4.



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Kaneman! said:
Mnementh said:

I think exclusive content is very important to the point, that these days a system without major exclusive content would be struggling. That said much more factors are needed for success, exclusive content alone is also not enough.

But you mentioned a friend that bought PS for brand loyalty. This is interesting. I think brand loyalty is managed by many things in the public perception. As exclusive games take a major spot in public perception, this influence the brand image very strong. More so: even if a multiplat gains a lot of attention, it's image will not influence either console brand image, as it is on multiple platforms. So exclusives get a big influence on brand image of the system while multiplats are irrelevant for that, even if the exclusives sell only a small portion of what all games sell.

Oh, I don't doubt that exclusive content is important, just that in my personal experience I know people who bought a PS just because it has a better presence? than its competitors, at least where I'm from (Slovenia). I had a chat with a store employee about why their PS game section is 3 times bigger than the Xbox section (Nintendo is half of Xbox, even) and he told me that it's a directive from above, despite them selling about the same total number of copies for PS and Xbox.

As for brand loyalty, I agree that the present exclusives play a major part in forming that perception, although it's not the only thing that does. I stood with Xbox for their achievement system and controller, personally.

It must be.........

 

A conspiracy!

 

Obvious Sony fanboys those store owners. What else could explain it...



Hiku said:
vivster said:
No one said that. Except maybe Xbox fanboys in the first 2 years of PS4.
zorg1000 said:
I dont recall anybody saying they weren't.

IkePoR just recently made the claim in this news article:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/270951/playstation-4-sales-surpass-the-3ds/?expand_comment=548860&#comment_548860

"Anyone thinking exclusives (besides maybe Bloodborne) sell the PS4 is delusional."

That 2017 has been PS4's best year so far has nothing to do with all the exclusives it got, and is all attributed to the casuals who haven't already bought a PS4 for COD/FIFA/GTA/AC years ago, but just suddenly decided to do it now more than ever before.

Um, did that comment come from this year, as in 2017. 

If so....why is the 3DS being mentioned? The Switch was well along with itself at this time.

Thespiralmatrix said:
I recall hearing lots of people saying " exclusives are bad for gaming "

I've never agreed with the statement but I've heard it lots over the years.

 

Mnementh said:
Thespiralmatrix said:
I recall hearing lots of people saying " exclusives are bad for gaming "

I've never agreed with the statement but I've heard it lots over the years.

That's different. Obviously exclusives matter for sales of the system. But similarly obviously it would be better for gamers if all games were available for all platforms. So exclusives are important, but at the same time evil.

You normally hear that 'the games would sell more' and 'more money would be made'.....but flaws exist in it. 

For example, Japanese games sell badly on the Xbox. Would even putting something like, say, Fire Emblem Switch, Xenoblade 2, and Mario even be worth it on said system. 

Not sure what the main argument is these days, but I generally hear it more from non-first party titles. Even if a title is probably funded by the console holder (Bayonetta 2), people will complain. 

 

SKMBlake said:
A thread about consoles exclusives and no mention of the Switch ?

Nintendo tends to be ignored even when it does well. Honestly a system that sells on the weight on exclusives more than anything else is interesting to bring in, because the question of why it does so is always a fun spit fire show. 



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setsunatenshi said:

It must be.........

 

A conspiracy!

 

Obvious Sony fanboys those store owners. What else could explain it...

PS has more games, obviously! Nah, I just assume MS does nothing to market the Xbox here. The market itself is so small that there's no localisation option for the country on the console. No conspiracy either, because it's similar in all the major retailers, while that isn't the case in neighboring Austria, at least from what I saw.



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KrspaceT said:
Thespiralmatrix said:
I recall hearing lots of people saying " exclusives are bad for gaming "

I've never agreed with the statement but I've heard it lots over the years.

 

Mnementh said:

That's different. Obviously exclusives matter for sales of the system. But similarly obviously it would be better for gamers if all games were available for all platforms. So exclusives are important, but at the same time evil.

You normally hear that 'the games would sell more' and 'more money would be made'.....but flaws exist in it. 

For example, Japanese games sell badly on the Xbox. Would even putting something like, say, Fire Emblem Switch, Xenoblade 2, and Mario even be worth it on said system. 

Not sure what the main argument is these days, but I generally hear it more from non-first party titles. Even if a title is probably funded by the console holder (Bayonetta 2), people will complain.

Oh no, I don't say multiplats would sell more. Exclusive are evil, because this leads to having five systems under the TV. And not that alone, now you need a HDMI-switcher. And you have to pick up the right controller. Seriously, it would be better for gamers if all games were on all systems. If it would be better for sales ... who knows, that depends I guess.



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KrspaceT said:

Nintendo tends to be ignored even when it does well. Honestly a system that sells on the weight on exclusives more than anything else is interesting to bring in, because the question of why it does so is always a fun spit fire show. 

And yet, we have a thread with "look how PS4 is selling well, it's a great example for showing how important exclusives are".

I wonder how many PS4 exclusives won't be forgotten over years.



SKMBlake said:
KrspaceT said:

Nintendo tends to be ignored even when it does well. Honestly a system that sells on the weight on exclusives more than anything else is interesting to bring in, because the question of why it does so is always a fun spit fire show. 

And yet, we have a thread with "look how PS4 is selling well, it's a great example for showing how important exclusives are".

I wonder how many PS4 exclusives won't be forgotten over years.

Nintendo games are forgotten easily?



The Democratic Nintendo fan....is that a paradox? I'm fond of one of the more conservative companies in the industry, but I vote Liberally and view myself that way 90% of the time?

KrspaceT said:
SKMBlake said:

And yet, we have a thread with "look how PS4 is selling well, it's a great example for showing how important exclusives are".

I wonder how many PS4 exclusives won't be forgotten over years.

Nintendo games are forgotten easily?

Actualy, I was trying to point out the exact opposite. 



Mnementh said:
Thespiralmatrix said:
I recall hearing lots of people saying " exclusives are bad for gaming "

I've never agreed with the statement but I've heard it lots over the years.

That's different. Obviously exclusives matter for sales of the system. But similarly obviously it would be better for gamers if all games were available for all platforms. So exclusives are important, but at the same time evil.

everyone would just buy the system with the most to offer, for the least then.....

Nintendo would be long gone (as a console maker), becuase thats never been their strategy.